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Darklight1216
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 Message 9 of 17
19 September 2014 at 12:50am | IP Logged 
As long as you know what language you want to study, go for it.

You will probably find that your hit list changes anyway so it's not important to have
everything planned out from the start.

Whatever you do, just don't fall into the trap of paralysis by analysis.
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 Message 10 of 17
19 September 2014 at 6:54am | IP Logged 
Aside from good motivation to study and bad motivation to wander, lists have another purpose for me: they help
with planning sequential language learning. If you want to learn five languages, you need to start one after
another, but not all the possible orderings are equally easy. I like to stagger closely related languages, so ideally
I'll start a Germanic language, then a Slavic language, then an East Asian language-- not three Slavic languages in
a row which I'll confuse. When three languages are on the list and one is in some way "intermediate" between the
others (e.g Swedish-Norwegian-Danish) I like to learn the intermediate one last. So if my next language or three
are ordered this way, I can focus on studying my current languages in a way that'll facilitate most and interfere
least with the next one on my list.

As for the OP's comment on gender: I'm curious, what makes you want to learn languages with gender systems in
particular? I have never heard anything like that before... most people find gender systems a bother to learn, and
if they care about grammatical features of target languages at all, tend to seek out novelty or similarity to L1.

Anyway, the Dravidian languages of Southern India have gender. In addition to Hindi, many of the other Indo-
European languages of the Indian subcontinent have gender (which they've inherited from Sanskrit), although
some have partially lost it (e.g. Nepali) or completely lost it (e.g. Bengali).


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 Message 11 of 17
19 September 2014 at 10:35pm | IP Logged 
Spanky wrote:

I have a written list.

More precisely, I have a painstakingly-revised and re-revised list of languages which
have been charted, flowcharted and Exceled so much over the years that they have
become near-lifeless and thread-worn versions of themselves.   I can be found on
occasion sitting in the dark corner of rooms caressing the list while muttering
(in English, still the only language I know) "My precious!" obsessively.


I'm glad I'm not the only one! I think my spreadsheet has 12 tabs now, with 21
languages scattered throughout. Though some of my lists are kind of sad - "Georgian
Resources" has exactly zero items on it, and I have a great and detailed plan to learn
Russian that I have been putting off every year since 2011.
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luke
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 Message 12 of 17
19 September 2014 at 10:56pm | IP Logged 
Just dig in and start learning. You're plans will change soon enough and many times if you try to attain your goal.

Edited by luke on 19 September 2014 at 11:03pm

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tristano
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 Message 13 of 17
20 September 2014 at 10:25am | IP Logged 
making plans is great fun.
but then you will be the opposite.
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Cavesa
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 Message 14 of 17
20 September 2014 at 2:50pm | IP Logged 
Making such plans is fine, fun and useful as long as it doesn't take away too much time from actual learning and as long as you don't make unrealistic plans leading to disappointment in my opinion.
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Ari
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 Message 15 of 17
22 September 2014 at 8:49am | IP Logged 
I daydream about my next language all the time. I don't have a big list of languages
I'm going to learn, but the next one, once my Spanish reaches a good enough level ... I
was pondering Japanese, and Czech, and Arabic, and Thai, and then suddenly I found
myself doing Portuguese, for various reasons. So my plans changed abrubtly, but now I'm
daydreaming about what to take up after Portuguese (which I expect will be fairly quick
to learn). And Japanese still looks tempting ...

Planning and dreaming about future languages is fun, and sometimes I even try out a few
lessons. I actually tend to have the opposite problem of people who suffer from
wanderlust. Every language I learn tends to have a few false starts. I start learning
the language, then I go back to my "familiar" languages. Then I try again, get a bit
further, and then stop. And then finally I reach "escape velocity" and my study takes
off.
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Bao
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 Message 16 of 17
22 September 2014 at 11:28am | IP Logged 
I also have a list. It serves as a good reminder of what will happen if I give in to wanderlust ... again.


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