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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6272 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes  Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 9 of 36 09 June 2008 at 9:14am | IP Logged | ||
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Written Russian has a high Church Slavonic content in its vocabulary (this is particularly true of newspaperese) and Church Slavonic is basically Old Bulgarian. So much written Bulgarian and written Russian might be similar.
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| showtime17 Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Slovakia gainweightjournal.co Joined 6084 days ago 154 posts - 210 votes Speaks: Russian, English*, Czech*, Slovak*, French, Spanish Studies: Ukrainian, Polish, Dutch | Message 10 of 36 25 June 2008 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | ||
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I speak several Slavic languages, so can compare. While I speak both Czech and Slovak, I have difficulty understanding Polish when spoken at a normal pace. I can understand better when people speak slowly, but am quite lost in a conversation between two Poles. It's even worse with South Slavic languages, where I can usually only pick out a few words out of the conversation, although my comprehension has improved since I have a lot of ex-Yugo friends. However it's not uncommon for Czechs and Slovaks who go down to Croatia for vacation, to be able to somehow communicate speaking slowly and using hands and feet, with the locals. But that's also similar with Romance languages. For example I had a Spanish speaking friend from Puerto Rico and when she was in Italy, she spoke Spanish slowly and they spoke Italian and together they were able to communicate. When it comes to Romance languages, French is quite apart from the others, even though it does share some similarities.
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| Vlad Trilingual Super Polyglot Senior Member Czechoslovakia foreverastudent.com Joined 6584 days ago 443 posts - 576 votes 2 sounds Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, Hungarian*, Mandarin, EnglishC2, GermanC2, ItalianC1, Spanish, Russian, Polish, Serbian, French Studies: Persian, Taiwanese, Romanian, Portuguese | Message 11 of 36 26 June 2008 at 1:02am | IP Logged | ||
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On another note,
I was talking to my friend yesterday and she is half Rusyn. She told me that Rusyn is actually very close to Old church Slavonic (or Starosloviencina. Allthough I am not really sure, that this is the same thing). I am not sure about this so I just wanted to know whether any one knew. Chung? Anyone? Edited by Vlad on 26 June 2008 at 1:03am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Talairan Tetraglot Senior Member Spain Joined 6592 days ago 194 posts - 258 votes Speaks: Afrikaans, English*, Gypsy/Romani, Dutch Studies: Spanish, Flemish, Galician, Aramaic | Message 13 of 36 26 June 2008 at 5:31am | IP Logged | ||
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According to wikipedia, Rusyn is sometimes regarded as being a dialect of Ukrainian, probably more likely on a linguistic continuum, much the same as Hutsul is.
Old Church Slavonic is a South Eastern Slavic language (as is Bulgarian, and Macedonian). Rusyn, belongs to East Slavic, together with Belarussian, Ukrainian, and Russian. The Ethnologue is always useful for these things. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 15 of 36 26 June 2008 at 8:52am | IP Logged | ||
As mentioned already Old Church Slavonic is classified as a Southern Slavonic language. In some books that I've read, it's called Old Bulgarian while language textbooks from Macedonia usually state that Old Church Slavonic is Old Macedonian. It seems that partially out of national pride both Bulgarians and Macedonians lay claim to this old language. I've heard of a liturgical language called Church Slavonic which is used by the Russian Orthodox Church. Perhaps this is what your Rusyn friend had in mind. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ElfoEscuro Diglot Senior Member United States cyworld.com/brahmapu Joined 6289 days ago 408 posts - 423 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English* Studies: Japanese | Message 16 of 36 27 June 2008 at 11:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm no expert on Slavic languages but I have noticed 1 thing. It seems that Polish is unique in placing adjectives after the modified noun, instead of before. Compare: Polish <języki słowiańskie> Czech <slovanské jazyky> Russian <славянские языки> Slovene <slovanski jeziki> (Slavic languages); Polish <strona główna> Czech <hlavní strana> Slovene <glavna stran> (main page).
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