Gil Diglot Newbie Afghanistan Joined 6393 days ago 13 posts - 13 votes 3 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Esperanto
| Message 9 of 26 25 April 2008 at 5:15am | IP Logged |
Or stand up to somebody, for example in a fight. Is this correct usage?
Indeed as a speaker of a Romance language I find phrasal verbs especially tricky, we tend to use Latin vocabulary instead, like resist in the example above.
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fanatic Octoglot Senior Member Australia speedmathematics.com Joined 7146 days ago 1152 posts - 1818 votes Speaks: English*, German, French, Afrikaans, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Dutch Studies: Swedish, Norwegian, Polish, Modern Hebrew, Malay, Mandarin, Esperanto
| Message 10 of 26 25 April 2008 at 5:17am | IP Logged |
Gil wrote:
Or stand up to somebody, for example in a fight. Is this correct usage?
Indeed as a speaker of a Romance language I find phrasal verbs especially tricky, we tend to use Latin vocabulary instead, like resist in the example above. |
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Yes, the difference is "stand up for" as opposed to "stand up to."
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Gilgamesh Tetraglot Senior Member England Joined 6242 days ago 452 posts - 468 votes 14 sounds Speaks: Dutch, English, German, French Studies: Polish
| Message 11 of 26 25 April 2008 at 6:21am | IP Logged |
But you can also stand up somebody.
"He stood me up."
Correct me if I'm wrong...
Edited by Gilgamesh on 25 April 2008 at 6:21am
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6439 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 12 of 26 25 April 2008 at 9:04am | IP Logged |
Gilgamesh wrote:
But you can also stand up somebody.
"He stood me up."
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You're not wrong, but your example is incomplete.
"He stood me up." -> I expected him to arrive, but he didn't.
"I stood him up." -> He expected me to arrive, but I didn't.
English is amazingly illogical at times.
Edit: I removed an incorrect use of 'stand up'.
Edited by Volte on 27 April 2008 at 11:17am
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Gilgamesh Tetraglot Senior Member England Joined 6242 days ago 452 posts - 468 votes 14 sounds Speaks: Dutch, English, German, French Studies: Polish
| Message 13 of 26 25 April 2008 at 1:00pm | IP Logged |
Volte wrote:
Gilgamesh wrote:
But you can also stand up somebody.
"He stood me up."
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You're not wrong, but your example is incomplete.
"He stood me up." -> I expected him to arrive, but he didn't.
"I stood him up." -> He expected me to arrive, but I didn't.
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That's what I meant. I was only too lazy to elaborate.
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meus azuis Bilingual Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6147 days ago 21 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English*, Gujarati* Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 14 of 26 26 April 2008 at 10:35am | IP Logged |
a few more:
"can't stand" as in "I can't stand this music" (I hate this music. I cannot tolerate it.)
"stand out" as in "I stand out in the crowd" (I am easily noticed due to some unique quality or trait that i
possess.)
"stand corrected" as in "I stand corrected" (You corrected my error, and i admit i was wrong.)
Edited by meus azuis on 26 April 2008 at 10:37am
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6439 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 15 of 26 26 April 2008 at 10:38am | IP Logged |
There are also 'stand up comedians', who do 'stand up' (comedy).
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TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6080 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin
| Message 16 of 26 26 April 2008 at 1:46pm | IP Logged |
I stand/stood him/her/them up - You literally picked them up and put them on two feet.
English is very illogical, and i only noticed it when i started learning other languages.
Some very illogical sentences in English/My dialect (of English)
He's like a cow handling a musket - He's really clumsy
Ee's as long as ee is broad - (My dialect, Ee means It or He) Both ways are the same length
Its raining cat's and dogs - Its raining heavily
It's tipping/bucketing down - Its raining heavily
He's kicked the bucket - He's died
And there are hundreds more, completly illogical, but mean something to us.
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