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Meanings of "stand"
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CrazyManAndy
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Message 17 of 26

26 April 2008 at 2:00pm | IP Logged

TheElvenLord wrote:

I stand/stood him/her/them up - You literally picked them up and put them on two feet.

English is very illogical, and i only noticed it when i started learning other languages.

Some very illogical sentences in English/My dialect (of English)

He's like a cow handling a musket - He's really clumsy
Ee's as long as ee is broad - (My dialect, Ee means It or He) Both ways are the same length
Its raining cat's and dogs - Its raining heavily
It's tipping/bucketing down - Its raining heavily
He's kicked the bucket - He's died

And there are hundreds more, completly illogical, but mean something to us.

I was under the impression that most, if not all, languages have idioms? In any case, an idiom doesn't make a language illogical.

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Edited by CrazyManAndy on 26 April 2008 at 2:02pm
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Message 18 of 26

26 April 2008 at 2:16pm | IP Logged

All languages seem to be illogical ;). It's because we know the modern language, and many "illogical" structures, words and especially idioms can be explained by the history of language only.
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26 April 2008 at 7:01pm | IP Logged

Gilgamesh wrote:

But you can also stand up somebody.

and something can stand up in court, if the judge thinks you're cute, or you're a really stand-up kinda guy, or if you stand out in a positive way when you take the stand.

Volte wrote:

"This is a stand-up!"

is that supposed to be a stick-up, or is this just another way to say it?
Also, there was this really silly cheer they used in my highschool
"Turn it to the left
Turn it to the right
Stand up, sit down,
Fight, Fight. Fight!"
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Message 20 of 26

27 April 2008 at 11:16am | IP Logged

leosmith wrote:

Gilgamesh wrote:

But you can also stand up somebody.

and something can stand up in court, if the judge thinks you're cute, or you're a really stand-up kinda guy, or if you stand out in a positive way when you take the stand.

Volte wrote:

"This is a stand-up!"

is that supposed to be a stick-up, or is this just another way to say it?

It appears that I messed up an English idiom, embarrassingly enough. I was thinking of 'hold up' rather than 'stick-up', but 'stand up' appears not to be used in this context.

I shall try to make amends by mentioning another use of 'stand up', that of still being held valid after inspection.

Example:
"My previous use of 'stand up' did not stand up to serious scrutiny".

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Message 21 of 26

27 April 2008 at 2:03pm | IP Logged

I have heard "Stand up" being used in that context

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27 April 2008 at 2:32pm | IP Logged

TheElvenLord wrote:

I have heard "Stand up" being used in that context

I'm rather relieved to hear that. I was slightly alarmed by the idea that it was my own invention, and that I was mangling my native language in such a way.

Thanks!

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27 April 2008 at 8:37pm | IP Logged

Volte wrote:

TheElvenLord wrote:

I have heard "Stand up" being used in that context

I'm rather relieved to hear that. I was slightly alarmed by the idea that it was my own invention, and that I was
mangling my native language in such a way.

Thanks!

I stand corrected!
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Message 24 of 26

28 April 2008 at 4:21pm | IP Logged

The stand-up comedian arrived at the bank. He got out of his car and stood up, stretching his legs. He walked inside, and said "This is a stand up, give me 5 pounds of gold!". At a restaurant across town, his girlfriend was unhappy, because he'd broken their date: she'd been stood up. Nevertheless, she stood up for him in court after his arrest, serving as a witness at the stand. She didn't like to lie, so this was not a good example of what she stood for. Due to the false alibi, the prosecutor was forced to admit defeat and say "I stand corrected."

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