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Half past four / half to five

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Leopejo
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26 April 2008 at 6:37am | IP Logged 
Many languages use half past to express time when it's at the 30 minutes mark, but some use half to instead.

For example,

half past
English (half past four)
Italian (quattro e mezza, "four and a half (hour)")
etc. etc.

half to
Russian (пол пятого)
Finnish (puoli viisi)
Swedish?

Other examples?
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26 April 2008 at 6:56am | IP Logged 
CROATIAN
4:00 četiri (four)
4:15 četiri i petnaest (four and fifteen)
4:30 pola četiri (half four), četiri i pol (four and half)
4:45 petnaest do četiri (fifteen to four)

halb vier (half four), in German.

Edited by bushwick on 26 April 2008 at 1:09pm

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26 April 2008 at 11:29am | IP Logged 
Catalan is extreme in this sense. Even a quarter past is expressed as a fraction of the next whole hour: 7:15 = "Un quart de vuit" = "a quarter of eight".
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26 April 2008 at 12:51pm | IP Logged 
Hungarian:

4:00 négy (óra) = four (hour)
4:15 negyed öt = quarter five
4:30 fél öt = half five
4:45 háromnegyed öt = three-quarter five

However, it is also acceptable (but not as common) to say it as in English.

4:00 négy (óra) = four
4:15 négy tizenöt = four fifteen
4:30 négy harminc = four thirty
4:45 négy negyvenöt = four forty-five.
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28 April 2008 at 9:25am | IP Logged 
In English, the structure is traditionally Half past three for 3:30. However, colloquially, many people in England seem to use the structure Half three for 3:30. To my ears this should really be referring to 2:30, as in Afrikaans one would say Half drie to refer to 2:30.
And in Spanish, it would be Las tres y media "three and (a) half" to refer to 3:30.

Edited by Talairan on 28 April 2008 at 9:28am

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28 April 2008 at 4:03pm | IP Logged 
Swedish:

Halv fyra (half four = 3.30).
Fem över halv fyra (five past half four = 3.35).
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29 April 2008 at 9:54pm | IP Logged 
Swahili is an interesting example. For Swahili speakers, time runs from dawn to dusk rather than midnight to midday. Halves are considered past the hour, as in English.

Here is Wikipedia on the subject.
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30 April 2008 at 5:18am | IP Logged 
Korean is also quite interesting because it's really the opposite of German
4:30 - 네시 반 (four o' clock half)


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