napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5018 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 1 of 13 06 September 2011 at 6:27pm | IP Logged |
Hugo Russian in 3 Months vs New Penguin Russian Course.
Both these wonderful books are authored by the same person, i.e. by Mr. Nicholas J Brown.
Could someone familiar with them both please tell me whether they complement each other? Or are they so similar that one makes the other redundant?
Thanks,
napoleon
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patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7017 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 13 09 September 2011 at 2:40pm | IP Logged |
The Hugo course is available with accompanying audio whilst the New Penguin course has none and, if memory serves me correct, has more of a grammatical focus to it.
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napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5018 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 3 of 13 09 September 2011 at 5:41pm | IP Logged |
Ah yes... Hadn't really thought about the audio part given how important it is.
What I wanted to know is:
Are the lessons in the two courses are very similar as they are by the same author.
Thanks for helping me out. :-)
I guess I'll buy them both.
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Gala Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4552 days ago 229 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Italian
| Message 4 of 13 01 March 2014 at 10:11am | IP Logged |
I'm reviving this thread because I have the same question (which was never adequately
answered) as the OP.
Obviously Hugo has audio while Penguin doesn't. But the Penguin book has a much higher
page count than Hugo. If one already has the latter (including its audio) is there enough
additional material in Penguin to make it worthwhile to have both? Also, does Penguin go
beyond Hugo, in terms of level?
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chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 5191 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish
| Message 5 of 13 04 March 2014 at 11:18pm | IP Logged |
Hugo is a more passive learning experience and will certainly leave plenty of gaps in your knowledge if used exclusively. Penguin is more thorough and engaging, and will give you a more solid base to build on... but the passive audio of Hugo could be a valuable addition if you don't have any other good audio materials to help with pronunciation and ear.
In terms of level, yes Penguin does go further. Hugo is "Russian in 3 months". How much would you expect to learn in 3 months? Whereas Penguin might keep you studying for 6-9 months or more. But there is certainly no harm in using more than one source. Anyway, Penguin is considered one of the de facto modern Russian courses and is the first book I would buy (if I had no books!).
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5567 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 6 of 13 05 March 2014 at 12:20am | IP Logged |
What do you mean by 'passive learning experience'?
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chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 5191 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish
| Message 7 of 13 05 March 2014 at 2:07am | IP Logged |
I mean, it's easy to just put the audio on and let your eyes skim over the pages for 15 minutes, and then when the audio track stops, close the book and realise you haven't really absorbed anything!
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Gala Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4552 days ago 229 posts - 421 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Italian
| Message 8 of 13 05 March 2014 at 4:53am | IP Logged |
Thanks, chokofingrz. Although I haven't started on the Hugo yet (or on Russian at all,
for that matter,) I've received the impression (from threads here, and from looking over
the Spanish & French versions) that the "in 3 months" is a bit misleading. The courses
appear to cover the equivalent of more than 2 college semesters worth of material, and it
seems that one would have to really buckle down to actually finish one in 3 months.
But, I definitely intend to use more than one beginning course for Russian. I just wanted
verification that the Penguin indeed went further and in more depth than Hugo, and you
gave me that.
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