AlexTG Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 4637 days ago 178 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Latin, German, Spanish, Japanese
| Message 33 of 61 15 June 2014 at 7:41pm | IP Logged |
"If you want to read newspapers in your TL, don't read newspapers in your TL."
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6596 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 34 of 61 15 June 2014 at 10:27pm | IP Logged |
"If you don't want to read newspapers in your TL, read them anyway because books are too difficult for you."
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shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4443 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French
| Message 35 of 61 16 June 2014 at 6:56am | IP Logged |
I think going to class that focuses on grammar (subject-verb conjugations with a language like French
or Spanish) and a bit of vocabulary should be included in the "Waste of Time" category. Many people
including myself took French classes in school and the result was years of WOT and still not able to
communicate even at the basic level.
The topic of learning a language with a heavy emphasis on grammar before conversation has been
discussed on this forum at least a few times so no need to repeat the point.
Edited by shk00design on 16 June 2014 at 6:57am
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kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4888 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish
| Message 36 of 61 16 June 2014 at 7:23am | IP Logged |
I should have book marked some of my favorite reviews on Amazon. I can't always tell if
the posts are fake, or if the reviewer is just naive. Here's one I saw this weekend
from Michel Thomas Arabic:
It is utterly amazing how well this method works. It blows my mind to think that one
can achieve an intermediate level on a language such as Arabic in a matter of hours.
Yes! Hours.
I like the course, but this claim is just full blown nonsense. I've seen others that
rave about how they learned 1000's of words in just eight hours.
And there are dozens of books promising secret magnetic memory techniques like this
one:
Discover a powerful system to instantly learn cantonese chinese words. By using
memory techniques based on images, you will be able to learn cantonese vocabulary
quickly and effortlessly.
Simply look at an image, and you will immediately be able to memorize the sound and
tone of the cantonese word.
So don't miss this opportunity. Save yourself countless wasted hours of effort with
this essential system. Learn hundreds of Cantonese words in 24 hours, and build your
vocabulary at an astonishing rate!
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Mani Diglot Senior Member Germany imsprachendickicht.b Joined 4904 days ago 258 posts - 323 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Swedish, Portuguese, Latin, Welsh, Luxembourgish
| Message 37 of 61 16 June 2014 at 12:59pm | IP Logged |
montmorency wrote:
Develop a stand-up routine in your TL, then go to an open-mic night in a comedy club in the capital city of your TL country, and see if you can deal with the hecklers. (probably too risky in the provinces until you've ironed out a few of the bumps).
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Nice one. I can think of at least three comedians who have tried this successfully. :)
There's only a flaw in your plan when your TL is German - no hecklers ...
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tomgosse Groupie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3991 days ago 90 posts - 143 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 38 of 61 16 June 2014 at 1:22pm | IP Logged |
The absolutely dumbest idea I ever hear of: In the 1960's a friend of mine took LSD
convinced that he could read a German language text book while tripping and learn the
language. It didn't work; the letters kept falling off the page. True story.
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4908 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 39 of 61 16 June 2014 at 2:17pm | IP Logged |
tomgosse wrote:
The absolutely dumbest idea I ever hear of: In the 1960's a friend of
mine took LSD
convinced that he could read a German language text book while tripping and learn the
language. It didn't work; the letters kept falling off the page. True story.
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That's actually perfect! He just forgot to mop up the words with his brain. I hate it
when someone argues against a perfectly good method simply because "someone they know"
didn't do it right.
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dampingwire Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4664 days ago 1185 posts - 1513 votes Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Japanese
| Message 40 of 61 16 June 2014 at 11:23pm | IP Logged |
kanewai wrote:
I should have book marked some of my favorite reviews on Amazon. I
can't always tell if
the posts are fake, or if the reviewer is just naive. Here's one I saw this weekend
from Michel Thomas Arabic:
It is utterly amazing how well this method works. It blows my mind to think that one
can achieve an intermediate level on a language such as Arabic in a matter of hours.
Yes! Hours.
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Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I've achieved Lower Intermediate in Japanese in just
hours. A mere matter of ~3000 hours ... Completely blew my mind :-)
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