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Cristianoo
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Studies: Russian

 
 Message 73 of 88
17 February 2014 at 10:22pm | IP Logged 
smurfysmurf17 - Welcome to hell lol!!

For what I've suffered already I would recommend the following:

1. Books/Audio etc:

Use those 3 together: Pimsleur + Assimil + Penguim Russian Course.

Pimsleur will teach you pronunciation. Assimil is good to build up vocabulary and
Penguim will teach you grammar.

Don't trust in Penguim's advices about pronunciation, because they are terrible.

2. I tried to use Anki to learn vocabulary but it is very overwhelming, since almost
every word will be new to you. So, use Anki only with "complete sentences" build up by
you throughout your studies.

3. Translate things in literal form. Example:
меня зовут Криштиану (My name is Cristiano). This is not actually "my name is" but
"me [they] call", so you have to get used to think on me they call instead of my name
is.

4. Use cyrillic from day 1. It's hard and will slow down your study but it's necessary.
Don't even think of not using it and run away from any books that use latin instead of
cyrillic.

Seriously, welcome and I hope you like it. If you need any help or just want to
complain about the language, I'm all ears! :)













Edited by Cristianoo on 17 February 2014 at 10:25pm

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Cristianoo
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 Message 74 of 88
17 February 2014 at 10:30pm | IP Logged 
Thanks to Via Diva's help, I found these at wiktionary

трудно - difficult, hard
тяжело - heavy, difficult, hard, laborious

I think is better to use тяжело because of the "laborious" meaning.

I'll try really hard to report things here in russian from now on, along with English
translation.
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smurfysmurf17
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 Message 75 of 88
17 February 2014 at 11:50pm | IP Logged 
Thanks Cristiano, it's good to know that hell isn't soooo bad =P

Unfortunately, Pimsleur is looking way too expensive for me. I ordered to penguin course,
that was really cheap, is it a short book with not many pages?

I completely agree with you about the cyrillic. I think I more or less know it but it
still takes me a while to read a word correctly.

Thanks for your help
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Cristianoo
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 Message 76 of 88
18 February 2014 at 5:00am | IP Logged 
сегодня, я снова изучал цифры

Я думаю сейчаc я могу читать цифры от 0 (ноль) до 999,999 (девятьсот девяносто девять
тысяч девятьсот девяносто девять)

тяжелая работа!

[English]

Today, I studied again the numbers

I think now I can read them from 0 (zero) to 999,999 (nine hundred ninety-nine thousand
nine hundred ninety-nine)

Hard work!

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Cristianoo
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 Message 77 of 88
16 May 2014 at 5:28am | IP Logged 
Hello, I am back!

No... I didn’t quit studying Russian, nor French... I was just a little busy with a lot
of stuff and I could not study and update my log at the same time. I had to choose, so
I choose my studies.

So, back to business... Well, Russian is always a challenge to me. Someday, I have
decided to study the "big picture" of cases and I found out that they are very
complicated but not impossible. When all rules were put together, at least I was able
to see the light at the end of the tunnel (as we use to say here in Brazil)

During the time I was out, I also decided I should finish Pimsleur before digging too
much into grammar, because grammar rules are so overwhelming! Also, I realize I was
getting some of the rules automatically with the audio lessons.

Therefore, it's a fact at least for me that spending hours studying this madness
(Russian grammar) will taking me nowhere – now. In the future, perhaps, it will be more
fruitful I think. In addition, I finally got used to Cyrillic well enough to identify
known words as I do with Portuguese/English/French: on spot.

So I guess my first objective was accomplished. Now I want to know enough Russian to
guide myself over there without getting lost on streets, to order food etc.

I'm studying Russian primarily to travel to Russia in 2015, so I'm on schedule here :)

One step at a time...

As usual, I want to thank you for reading my log and wish you all a very nice day.
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Penelope
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 Message 78 of 88
16 May 2014 at 6:17am | IP Logged 
Nice to see you again :D
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miertje
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 Message 79 of 88
16 May 2014 at 10:31am | IP Logged 
Hi Christianoo, I'm studying Russian and French as well. Russian grammar stresses me out
too, if I focus on it too much. I hope that when my Russian gets better, the grammar will
fall into place. Step by step indeed. :-)

And a very nice day to you too!
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Cristianoo
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 Message 80 of 88
29 May 2014 at 7:27pm | IP Logged 
Penelope wrote:
Nice to see you again :D

It is always a pleasure to talk to you. :)

I'm focusing on trying to finish Pimsleur I. I finished lesson 21, but it sent me again
to lesson 2... oh boy...

I'm also studying cases using this site to do exercises:

http://www.russianforfree.com/exercises.php

I'm trying to focus on just those cases that are well covered by Pimsleur's lessons
such as Prepositional and Genitive and I'm leaving others to study later.

Prepositional is really easy and it's pretty much fixed in my head. Now I'm struggling
with the genitive.

Unfortunately i'm not a fast russian learner, but I keep learning it slowly and steady.




Edited by Cristianoo on 29 May 2014 at 7:27pm



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