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| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4120 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 81 of 88 10 June 2014 at 2:58am | IP Logged |
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Я изучал Assimil 23 сегодня
Я пересмотрел Pimsleur 1-11. Я на Pimsleur 22 я не знаю почему несколько слова заканчивают с 'ом' как в: Я люблю заниматься спортом вы можете помочь мне? Большое спасибо 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4233 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 82 of 88 10 June 2014 at 3:26am | IP Logged |
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Меняется падеж слова:
Спорт помогает поддерживать форму (nominative). Я люблю заниматься спортом (instrumental). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 5188 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish | Message 83 of 88 10 June 2014 at 4:09am | IP Logged |
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Я тоже люблю заниматься спортом.
The key word is заниматься, to engage in, to practise, to occupy oneself. Any object it takes will always be in instrumental case. Here, sport takes the role of the instrument or method which describes the action of engaging in. It's not totally obvious but I'm sure you will pick it up fast! Here are some more examples. Other verbs that work the same way include интересоваться (to be interested in), and служить (to serve [as]). There's another useful related word: занятый (busy). Я занят - I'm busy! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4120 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 84 of 88 10 June 2014 at 6:01am | IP Logged |
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You guys are wonderful - really
Chokofingrz, Via Diva, do you know any resource that shows a verb x applied case ? It seems I wont be able to use basic portuguese grammar notion with russian... When I think: ok, thats a direct object, so I will use accusative - I'm wrong. So if something like that ever exist, it would be extremely helpful for anyone learning the language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| chokofingrz Pentaglot Senior Member England Joined 5188 days ago 241 posts - 430 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Japanese, Catalan, Luxembourgish | Message 85 of 88 10 June 2014 at 3:49pm | IP Logged |
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Cristianoo, you are perfectly correct to use accusative for the direct objects of transitive verbs!
This заниматься is a different thing because it's intransitive (indicated by the suffix ся). It will tell you in the dictionary that the instrumental case follows. The syntax here is not as simple as the English phrase "I do sport". Think more along the lines of "I am occupied. With what? With sport". I don't explain it that well but this video gives a thorough overview of the common instrumental verbs (first 4 minutes are enough). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4120 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 86 of 88 19 June 2014 at 10:17pm | IP Logged |
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chokofingrz,
That was great. большое спасибо. I will be studying only with my pimsleur audio files for the next 25 days because I'll be travelling abroad. And probably I wont be logging in here, so I see you guys later. прощание 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4843 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 87 of 88 07 September 2014 at 11:01pm | IP Logged |
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Hey Cristianoo, what's your Russian doing? Are you still studying? Would be great to hear from you again soon.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5333 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 88 of 88 08 September 2014 at 7:22am | IP Logged |
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Yes, let us know what s up, Cristiano :-)
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