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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4828 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 9 of 17 16 December 2013 at 2:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Hmm...well, in the UK, the British Library is what's known as a copyright library. As I understand it, a copy of every single book published in the UK has to go there for archive. (I don't know the history behind this, and it's possible it has changed in modern times, but I believe that used to be the case). ....according to Wikipedia, this process is known as "Legal Deposit": Legal Deposit I didn't notice an entry for Norway in the list, but if its national library also acts as a "copyright library", then the assumption would be that every book and periodical that is published in Norway has a copy in the national library, and will now go digital and become available online to Norwegians. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| schoenewaelder Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5560 days ago 759 posts - 1197 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Spanish, Dutch | Message 10 of 17 16 December 2013 at 3:14pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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The berlin library loans e-books and audio books with DRM that locks them after a week. The available content is only a fraction of what is available in print, but I guess the priciple is the same, and that's the direction things are going. (It's fairly easy to overcome the restrictions with calibre and an add-on)
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| tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5453 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin | Message 11 of 17 16 December 2013 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Yes, the national library is such a library. Legal background: Pliktavleveringslova: http://lovdata.no/dokument/NL/lov/1989-06-09-32 Instruks til pliktavleveringslova: http://lovdata.no/dokument/INS/forskrift/1990-05-25-4696 Edited by tractor on 16 December 2013 at 11:53pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4639 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 12 of 17 17 December 2013 at 9:19am | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
Here is what the National Library says on its website:
The Library's website has plenty of information in English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4622 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 13 of 17 17 December 2013 at 12:49pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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How does it work in Norway? I believe there is a spoken language and a "book language"
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| Ogrim Heptaglot Senior Member France Joined 4639 days ago 991 posts - 1896 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, French, Romansh, German, Italian Studies: Russian, Catalan, Latin, Greek, Romanian | Message 14 of 17 17 December 2013 at 1:01pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
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There are two official written standards of Norwegian, Bokmål and Nynorsk. Bokmål is used by more than 80% of the population. However, public instances like government departments, the public broadcaster etc. have an obligation to use at least 25% Nynorsk in their communication. However the huge majority of everything that is printed in Norway (books, magazines, newspapers etc.) will be in Bokmål only.
As for spoken language, Norwegian has a well of dialects. To put it very simply, the dialects in the Oslo area, the Eastern regions, most of Northern Norway and parts of Central Norway are closer to Bokmål, while those of Western Norway especially are closer to Nynorsk. However, even in Western Norway there are more people writing bokmål than nynorsk. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 15 of 17 17 December 2013 at 1:19pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
They are using futurity shall in the 3rd person instead of will. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 16 of 17 17 December 2013 at 1:24pm | IP Logged | ||||||||||||||
In East Oslo and by many young people in Oslo-West, radical bokmaal is the spoken form, and the conservative/moderate bokmaal is the written form: Conservative/Moderate Bm: Dronningen kastet boken i elven. Radical Bm: Dronninga kasta boka i elva. (''The queen threw the book in[to] the river''). So, even within bokmaal, there's a difference between writing and speech. Moderate and radical mean ''right-wing'' and ''left-wing'' in the Scandinavian context, so there is a ''right wing bokmaal'' (used by Aftenposten and VG) and a ''left wing bokmaal'' (used by Klassekampen and Dagbladet). Users of radical bokmaal call moderate bokmaal : riksmaal, and users of moderate bokmaal call radical bokmaal: samnorsk or say ''this is not bokmal'' when referring to words like husa, heim or mjølk which are correct bokmaal as defended by Bokmaalsordboka, the normative dictionary of bokmaal. The current conflict in written Norwegian is not between bokmaal and nynorsk but between a Danish-flavored bokmaal and a Nynorsk-flavored bokmaal. Aftenposten is the greatest advocate of riksmaal (a mix of conservative bokmaal and Danish), they like using words like EFTER or NU which are not considered correct Bokmaal anymore. While in Western Norway, the motto is: ''Speak dialect, write nynorsk'', in Oslo they have another motto ''Speak radical bokmaal (if you really can't get away from it), but don't you dare use it in writing (unless you're a famous writer like Per Petterson), use conservative bokmaal (or preferrebly riksmaal)). There was even a conflict involving a neighborhood name: Majorstua, it was renamed to Majorstuen because people on the West End don't find Norwegian -a endings posh enough. Edited by Medulin on 17 December 2013 at 1:59pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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