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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4622 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 1 of 15 20 December 2013 at 10:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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English of course has the verb "to have" but native speakers frequently denote possession by including the
word "got" Have you got....? I've got.... It seems to me that non-natives, particularly those who have never lived in an English-speaking countries tend not to use "got" as often as the natives do. Is this because other languages tend just to have a direct equivalent of "to have" which guides them towards phrasing the above examples as: Do you have....? I have.... 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cabaire Senior Member Germany Joined 5599 days ago 725 posts - 1352 votes | Message 2 of 15 20 December 2013 at 11:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was told that "have got" is more usual in England, but "have" in America, and both are acceptable to denote possession. So no problem if you prefer one of them.
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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4290 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 3 of 15 20 December 2013 at 11:35pm | IP Logged | ||
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It might become even more complicated when not in the perfect tenses, like "I got it"
when one means that one understands, or like in cricket, when commentatora say when the batsman gets caught in the slips, "Got 'im", which might sound even more odd. But "Have you got" to me implies onot, "Have you...", but rather, "Have you received (something in the past)?" Not everyone in the UK uses it, I remember someone from university, during lunch, once asked me, "Have you the salt?" instead of, "Have you got the salt?". Edited by 1e4e6 on 20 December 2013 at 11:36pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4665 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 4 of 15 21 December 2013 at 12:45am | IP Logged | ||
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"Have you got...?" is certainly not rare in the areas where I've lived (Texas, Virginia, South Carolina), but "Do you have...?" is more common.
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4889 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 5 of 15 21 December 2013 at 1:25am | IP Logged | ||
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From the north and western states, the following are common:
Do you have....? I have.... I've got.... Whereas these just sound tortured: Have you got....? I have got ... To my ears, "got" only sounds right when the 'have' is contracted (I've got, we've got, they've got), even though it might be technically proper to use it either way. on reflection: in pidgen (Hawaiian Creole English) people say, "eh, you got any ... ?" but this is very colloquial. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
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| nicozerpa Triglot Senior Member Argentina Joined 4326 days ago 182 posts - 315 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Portuguese, English Studies: Italian, German | Message 7 of 15 21 December 2013 at 4:32am | IP Logged | ||
I didn't know that "have got" was actually used by native speakers. To be honest, I've almost never seen that use of the verb outside English learning books :P When I started learning English at school, I was taught how to use "have got" to denote possession. Our teacher taught it to us even before explaining us how to use the verb "to do" in the present tense. I used to use "have got", but then I realised that most people dropped the "got" and even used the auxiliar "to do" with that verb. Since then, I use it that way. Edited by nicozerpa on 21 December 2013 at 4:36am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4290 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 8 of 15 21 December 2013 at 4:43am | IP Logged | ||
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It is true that I hear this very often in the UK, and it might become even more
complicated when the two "have"'s are mixed, like "You have had to have got the book in stock today", but therein itself, it has different meanings: "Have you got the lesson today?" (Do you understand today's lesson?) "Have you got the lesson today?" (Do you have the lecture notes for the lesson today?) "Have you got the lesson today?" (Do you have to attend the lesson today?) "Have you got the lesson today?" (Did you receive the notes for the lesson today?) Then the meanings carry into other tenses with "have": "Have you have gotten the lesson today?" "Have you had gotten the lesson today?" I remember these combinations because once I asked an acquaintance who is runs a book publishing house, "You had have to have had gotten this book in stock today, yes?" Edited by 1e4e6 on 21 December 2013 at 4:53am 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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