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| solidsnake Diglot Senior Member China Joined 7041 days ago 469 posts - 488 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 9 of 13 05 February 2008 at 12:31am | IP Logged | ||
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I think you can surpass a native speaker. However, how well you phrase in your native language will be the litmus test for potential in secondary languages.
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| danutza Diglot Newbie Romania Joined 6144 days ago 14 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Romanian*, English Studies: French | Message 10 of 13 05 February 2008 at 6:48am | IP Logged | ||
Do you really think a person's skills of communicating in his own language would be of much help when learning another language? Or you mean that a learner is not able to reach a better level than the one he has in his own language? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6768 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek | Message 11 of 13 05 February 2008 at 7:19am | IP Logged | ||
That makes sense to me. If you can't compose clear and elegant thoughts in your own language, it seems unlikely you'll ever do it in a second language. Of course, this is something you can improve in your native language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| guto2005br Tetraglot Newbie Brazil Joined 6139 days ago 13 posts - 13 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English, GermanC2, Spanish Studies: Swedish, Italian | Message 12 of 13 05 February 2008 at 8:23pm | IP Logged | ||
yes, it is possible. it is only difficult to maintain that level tough. i speak German fluently and i was mistaken sometimes for a German in different coutries. in berlin people had difficulty identifying my accent.. most of them thought i was from southern German states. in switzerland people actually thought i was from Germany but they were not sure where... however, with time, you (may) loose some of the subtleties of the language that fool people towards thinking you are "one of them". when i returned to Germany after some months in switzerland, some actually identified the swiss-German accent i picked up involutarily... but, I never actually always thought in German a 100%.. yes, sometimes it would go unnoticeable to me, wether i was speaking German or other language... by the way, the first time i was in Germany i was 17 and i stayed there for 5 weeks. then 8 years later i went back and stayed for 1 week. i am 28 now. that is another evidence for me that you dont need to spend your savings with long and expensive travels. i have only been to usa for 2 weeks ten years ago... and i never studied english at a private school.. and i do make mistakes, but i do speak it almost without accent.. the same with Spanish. it is not easy, you have to like languages and spend time but if you really want it, you get through it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| danutza Diglot Newbie Romania Joined 6144 days ago 14 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Romanian*, English Studies: French | Message 13 of 13 06 February 2008 at 6:45am | IP Logged | ||
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I haven't travelled much in my life either. one year ago I went to Belgium for one week due to an educational program and I had the chance to practice both my English and my French now I am 19 and I can speak English fluently and usually with an accent but in French I have a hard time in finding my words that is I can't think directly in French because I don't have the vocabulary and it is really disturbing because I feel like I can't bring my French at the same level as my English. Anyway now I am a first year undergraduate in Foreign Languages and my major is English and my minor subject is French so I hope for a gradual improvement. I have tried to learn German too because a part of Romania was once under German occupation and my grandma is from that part but I haven't got too far though.
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