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darina
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 Message 17 of 22
10 April 2008 at 12:53pm | IP Logged 
DaraghM wrote:
Do Russian speakers and English speakers think differently ? I'd say the answer is obviously yes, but not to the extent it should affect general traits about people, such as bravery, courage, warmth, friendliness, or sociability .

Yes, there're some general traits, but some of these, which you speak about, are not general. For example, friendliness, people from different countries have different notions about this treat. And besides these general treats there're some special treats, for example there're some words in the Russian language which represent these features and there aren't equivalents for these words in English for example, because these treats of mentality (represented in these words) are not typical for the English and more - sometimes recondite.
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DaraghM
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 Message 18 of 22
11 April 2008 at 8:47am | IP Logged 
darina wrote:
for example there're some words in the Russian language which represent these features and there aren't equivalents for these words in English for example, because these treats of mentality (represented in these words) are not typical for the English and more - sometimes recondite.


Unfortunately, my Russian is still very much at the beginner stage, but this sounds interesting. Could you elaborate on how Russian treats the concept of friendship different to English ?

Edited by DaraghM on 11 April 2008 at 8:47am

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darina
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 Message 19 of 22
11 April 2008 at 1:47pm | IP Logged 
DaraghM wrote:
Could you elaborate on how Russian treats the concept of friendship different to English ?

Well, I try to speak English and I'm interested in this language, so probably you can tell me more about the concept of frendship in English, I can't judge here, because I'm not a native speaker of English, but I said that this concept isn't universal because I tried to compare it with the Japanese one. These are very different things. As regards the Russian language, the relatuions between people are very important in these culture as the relations between relatives. And the real friend is a very close person for you, a very important thing is the idea that a friend must help you in any difficult situation, when you have need for his help. I think that in English this concept isn't in a great difference from the Russian one, is it so? What is 'friend' for the English people?
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DaraghM
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 Message 20 of 22
14 April 2008 at 8:36am | IP Logged 
The English concept is very similar, but the word can cover different types, as in,

friend - someone who I know, as opposed to a stranger.
friend - the opposite of enemy.
close friend - generally implies a relationship of some description.
best friend - the one person who you can always rely on. Similar to your point.
true friend - someone who has proven themselves to be reliable in a difficult situation.

There are many others, but I hope you get the idea.
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 Message 21 of 22
19 April 2008 at 10:40am | IP Logged 
DaraghM wrote:
friend - someone who I know, as opposed to a stranger.
friend - the opposite of enemy.
close friend - generally implies a relationship of some description.
best friend - the one person who you can always rely on. Similar to your point.
true friend - someone who has proven themselves to be reliable in a difficult situation.


I should say that the concept of a friend in Russia is absolutely the same. I guess, friendship is such a universal notion that it's similar in most cultures. And I wonder what is so special about English sense of humour? They say that it's difficult for someone not English to understand English jokes. Does anyone know a typical English joke?
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DaraghM
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 Message 22 of 22
21 April 2008 at 8:41am | IP Logged 
Here's a typical English joke,

Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson went on a camping trip. After a good meal and a bottle of wine, they lay down for the night, and went to sleep. Some hours later, Holmes awoke and nudged his faithful friend. "Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see." Watson replied, "I see millions and millions of stars." "What does that tell you?" Holmes asked. Watson pondered for a minute. "Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo. Horologically, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three. Theologically, I can see that God is all-powerful and that we are small and insignificant. Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have a beautiful day tomorrow. What does it tell you?" Holmes was silent for a minute, then spoke. "Watson, you idiot. Somebody has stolen our tent!"


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