Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 1 of 42 05 June 2012 at 8:08pm | IP Logged |
This from a Pimsleur transcript:
В свободное время я занимаюсь спортом.
In my free time, I’m involved in sports.
"В свободное время" appears to be accusative. Shouldn't it be prepositional?
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Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 2 of 42 05 June 2012 at 8:38pm | IP Logged |
Same transcript:
У вас будет очень много дел перед выходными.
You will have very many things to do before the weekend.
Is "будет" correct? I thought it needed to agree with "дел" which is plural.
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s0fist Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5047 days ago 260 posts - 445 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: Sign Language, German, Spanish, French
| Message 3 of 42 05 June 2012 at 9:41pm | IP Logged |
Both examples are correct Russian.
Let me give you a couple more examples to illustrate that.
You can think of в свободное время, во время as set phrases for in my free time (notice how you put
a comma in English): Во время уроков, я смотрю в окно.
These phrases are sentence modifiers, they're not changed to agree with the rest of the sentence,
because they aren't part of it.
But you'd be correct in cases where it's one logically connected sentence, as for example in this
one: В свободной комнате я занимаюсь спортом.
будет много (чего? - дел, вкусностей, кого? - людей), будут многие (что? вкусности, дела. кто? -
люди):
На вечеринке будет много вкусностей. vs. На вечеринке будут многие вкусности.
На вечеринке будет много известных людей. vs. На вечеринке будут многие известные люди.
As such, one could construct "У вас будут очень многие дела перед выходными", but this sounds a bit
awkward.
E.g. "У меня будут дела"/"У меня будет много дел" doesn't sound awkward, but "У меня будут многие
дела" is awkward. I'm not sure how to describe why it feels awkward.
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Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 4 of 42 30 June 2012 at 6:11am | IP Logged |
Thanks.
две русских реки
две русские реки
which is correct?
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 5 of 42 30 June 2012 at 7:10am | IP Logged |
Wulfgar wrote:
Thanks.
две русских реки
две русские реки
which is correct? |
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Both.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 6 of 42 30 June 2012 at 7:12am | IP Logged |
Wulfgar wrote:
This from a Pimsleur transcript:
В свободное время я занимаюсь спортом.
In my free time, I’m involved in sports.
"В свободное время" appears to be accusative. Shouldn't it be prepositional? |
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It shouldn't. It's like в субботу, в тот день, во время чего-то. Logically it should be
prep., but acc. is used for some reason.
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 7 of 42 30 June 2012 at 7:16am | IP Logged |
Wulfgar wrote:
Same transcript:
У вас будет очень много дел перед выходными.
You will have very many things to do before the weekend.
Is "будет" correct? I thought it needed to agree with "дел" which is plural. |
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дел is gen. pl., the verb doesn't have to agree with it because it's not the subject.
That's like коробка конфет - it will be singular. With numerals however both are used,
that's a modern tendency of course. Пришло пять человек,
Пришли пять человек - both are correct.
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Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 8 of 42 30 June 2012 at 7:40am | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
Wulfgar wrote:
Thanks.
две русских реки
две русские реки
which is correct? |
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Both. |
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Cool. Is one more common? I got the impression that because the genitive singular noun doesn't match the
nominative plural noun, the genitive plural adjective is preferred. But it was never stated in my text book.
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