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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes  Speaks: Russian* | Message 9 of 42 30 June 2012 at 7:53am | IP Logged | |||||
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I agree. I was surprised when I first saw the second variant in a book, but I'm not sure
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| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 10 of 42 30 June 2012 at 8:19am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thanks Марк. This was in lesson 10 of Penguin, in case anyone was interested.
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| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 11 of 42 03 July 2012 at 8:23am | IP Logged | |||||
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Alright, here's one that's been bugging me for a while. What is it with the native pronunciation of вре́мя and other
words ending in мя? I like to think I fully understand the pronunciation, and really don't find it difficult. My text-to- speech program backs me up. But at least half the time I hear a native speaker say it, I hear an n sound in there (or н in Russian). Is it just sloppy pronunciation? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 12 of 42 03 July 2012 at 9:58am | IP Logged | |||||
You mishear something. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6152 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian | Message 13 of 42 03 July 2012 at 11:29am | IP Logged | |||||
Are you sure you're not hearing, времени, the genitive ? As in, I have no time - у меня нет времени This also applies to other words ending in -мя, like имя (name) I have no name - у меня нет имени [EDIT] Or maybe you're hearing времена the plural. Edited by DaraghM on 03 July 2012 at 3:05pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Wulfgar Senior Member United States Joined 4672 days ago 404 posts - 791 votes Speaks: English* | Message 14 of 42 04 July 2012 at 9:09am | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, I've been told this before by native speakers. A typical conversation will go like this: Native: врена Me: Did you just say врена? Don't you mean время? Native: That's what I said, врена. Me: Oh, so am I saying it wrong - время? Native: Yes. You need to say it like this - врена. Me: I see - врена. Native: No! Hmm.... время. Me: время? Native: yes, that's right. So, at the end of the conversation the native has said the м in a way that I can detect, just like my text-to-speech program. I've had this (almost) identical conversation at least 3 times now. I ignore the problem now, because it's a waste of time. But I just wanted to see if I a native here would have any more insight.
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| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 15 of 42 04 July 2012 at 9:18am | IP Logged | |||||
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Then it is a mystery. Why a palatalized m ressembles a hard n to you, only God can tell.
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| Sereniti Diglot Newbie Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4998 days ago 2 posts - 3 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, Spanish, French | Message 16 of 42 04 July 2012 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I think that's because мя in время is not stressed and therefore pronounced as clear as for example in мясо.
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