morinkhuur Triglot Groupie Germany Joined 4681 days ago 79 posts - 157 votes Speaks: German*, Latin, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Egyptian), Arabic (Maghribi)
| Message 1 of 3 14 June 2012 at 6:59pm | IP Logged |
Hi,
I have a question regarding the stress of male nisba adjecives in Arabic, like for example the words سوداني ، تونسي or
فرنسي.
Are they stressed like their root words or does the last syllable always carry the stress? I generally assumed that
they followed the normal stress pattern and thus would mostly have the stress in the same place as their root
words, but more than a few times I've heard them pronounced with the stress on the ي in the last syllable. I've
noticed this was often the case when the word had three syllables like in the examples above.
What also made me wonder is that they are usually transcribed as tūnisīy sūdānīy and faransīy
respectively, with an additional "y" at the end. Is this "y" considered a consonant in that case, so that the last
syllable would become heavy and thus stressed or is this just to show the nisba ending in the transcription?
Could it be that the stress on the last syllable is only a dialectal phenomenon and not MSA?
Thanks for your answers.
Edited by morinkhuur on 15 June 2012 at 1:16am
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Andrew C Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom naturalarabic.com Joined 5194 days ago 205 posts - 350 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written)
| Message 2 of 3 15 June 2012 at 12:13am | IP Logged |
Hi,
The final ي [ee] is stressed, but the root is pronounced more or less the same, except for a slight shortening of its last syllable.
It's similar to the English employ v employee
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WH2010 Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5176 days ago 13 posts - 52 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 3 of 3 09 August 2012 at 2:27am | IP Logged |
The stress at the end is the Classical rule, but it is not observed most of the time.
Even Classical grammarians accepted that a "weak" yaa was common in their time.
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