Spinchäeb Ape Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4470 days ago 146 posts - 180 votes Speaks: English*, German
| Message 1 of 14 09 October 2013 at 9:06pm | IP Logged |
Okay, I've learned two different ways to say, "I'm robbing a bank" in French:
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Je dévalise une banque.
Je vole une banque. |
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I'm pretty sure both these are correct. (If not, please correct me.) My question is what's the difference in meaning between the two?
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akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5408 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 2 of 14 09 October 2013 at 9:31pm | IP Logged |
I would say "dévaliser une banque" or "braquer une banque", I don't know why but "voler une banque" sounds strange to me.
But assuming it exists, I think the three expressions are pretty much interchangeable except maybe that "dévaliser/braquer" implies (in my opinion) a physical action, people entering the bank with guns or something of this kind. "Voler une banque" could be something less concrete, stealing their money thanks to a computer based scheme or some financial market trick or whatever...
Not sure I'm very clear there, and again this is just my take on things.
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Michel1020 Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5017 days ago 365 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 3 of 14 10 October 2013 at 10:30am | IP Logged |
Dévaliser is always voler but voler is not always dévaliser.
Dévaliser means voler tout.
If you dévalisez Le Louvre - there is nothing left to see after you left.
If you only leave Le Louvre with Mona Lisa under your arm - that is voler but it is not dévaliser.
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Spinchäeb Ape Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4470 days ago 146 posts - 180 votes Speaks: English*, German
| Message 4 of 14 10 October 2013 at 6:49pm | IP Logged |
Michel1020 wrote:
Dévaliser is always voler but voler is not always dévaliser.
Dévaliser means voler tout.
If you dévalisez Le Louvre - there is nothing left to see after you left.
If you only leave Le Louvre with Mona Lisa under your arm - that is voler but it is not dévaliser.
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Thanks. That explanation makes sense. So "dévaliser" is a bit like "to rob blind."
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4909 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 5 of 14 12 October 2013 at 10:23am | IP Logged |
akkadboy wrote:
I would say "dévaliser une banque" or "braquer une banque", I don't know why but "voler une banque" sounds strange to me. |
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I wouldn't have thought "voler" was the right choice, because it's more like the English word "steal"... you would therefore only say "voler une banque" if the person was taking the whole bank. I'm still more or less a beginner, but I watch a lot of policiers, and I don't think I've heard "voler" used for "rob" as in "rob a bank" or "rob an old lady", but instead used for the objects robbed, as in "voler une voiture".
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 6 of 14 12 October 2013 at 10:59am | IP Logged |
Where does cambrioler enter into this equation?
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anime Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6360 days ago 161 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Spanish, Swedish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese, French, Russian
| Message 7 of 14 12 October 2013 at 12:29pm | IP Logged |
You should watch La Cambrioleuse, that's a good French movie ;-) I think cambrioler is breaking in
somewhere?
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Michel1020 Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 5017 days ago 365 posts - 559 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish, Dutch
| Message 8 of 14 12 October 2013 at 12:37pm | IP Logged |
Cambrioler is to enter somewhere by strategy with the goal to steal something.
Braquer is to point a weapon at somebody with the goal to steal something.
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