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| GermanMd Newbie Turkey Joined 4101 days ago 18 posts - 34 votes Studies: English | Message 1 of 7 23 December 2013 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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Hello guys,
I have just found that Assimil German without toil has approximately 2500 words, this mean it's very close to B1 level .. what do you think ? Edited by GermanMd on 23 December 2013 at 11:14pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4713 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 2 of 7 24 December 2013 at 3:20am | IP Logged | ||
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What are you asking, exactly? Whether forum members think it can get you to B1? The
answer is, maybe. It depends on you, and how you use the material. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5322 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English | Message 3 of 7 24 December 2013 at 10:39am | IP Logged | ||
AFAIK, most current Assimil sans peine courses claim that they prepare students for CEFR A1 to B2. However, the Goethe-Institut estimates that you'll need to know approximately 3500 words for B1. (The CEFR defines only skills but not word counts.) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| fireballtrouble Triglot Senior Member Turkey Joined 4526 days ago 129 posts - 203 votes Speaks: Turkish*, French, English Studies: German | Message 4 of 7 24 December 2013 at 2:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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If you absorb the book completely, if you learn it inside out, I may say you'll be close
to B1. But if you study with "1 lesson a day, no need to memorize" motto, I don't think it'll work as you can't retain all the words in this way. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4084 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 5 of 7 24 December 2013 at 4:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Also, assuming you spend 1.5 hrs on each lesson (0.5 first round, 0.5 revision, 0.5
second round), you will spend 150hrs on the whole course. It is extremely unlikely to be able to get to B1 with that. I would hazard that it would take at least 500hrs of study to get to B1. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4911 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 6 of 7 25 December 2013 at 11:07pm | IP Logged | ||
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CEFR used to have word counts with their skills levels. They no longer do this. I think there are two reasons:
1. Word counts are different from language to language for particular proficiency levels. 2. They didn't want people to produce a test proving they know 2500 words and claim therefore to have a B1 in a language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| aokoye Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5543 days ago 235 posts - 453 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Dutch, Norwegian, Japanese | Message 7 of 7 26 December 2013 at 1:03am | IP Logged | ||
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There is also more to learning a language and CEFR levels than just reading dialogues which
it seems make up the bulk of Assimil. The Goethe Institut's B1 exam envolves reading articles and, emails, and ads, listening to short lectures and the radio, writing short (grammatically correct) texts, and speaking. Essentially you'll need more than assimil to pass the B1 exam in German (or likely any language). 7 persons have voted this message useful |
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