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| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4532 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes  Studies: German | Message 17 of 29 03 June 2014 at 11:46am | IP Logged | |||||
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I know someone who studied a masters at Humboldt University and when they started they were strong B2. However, I think they wrote their thesis in English - lectures/classes were all in German of course.
I think a strong B2 is probably sufficient to attend lectures, but if you are going to do much writing you obviously would want to be in the C1 range (C2 would be unnecessarily high). However, I don't know what the actual admission requirements are, which presumably vary by course/university. Also there are some "international" graduate programs about and they will have English as their main language. Some people have estimated 700 Euros/month for Berlin. That seems too cheap to me. Rents in most desirable areas have gone up a lot in the last couple of years. Standard costs for rent are about 10 Euros/square-meter - perhaps a little less with luck (say 8.50 euros/m2). So a 2-bedroom 65 m2 apartment could cost about 650 euros/month kalt - add 200 euros for heating and other costs. So you are probably looking at 300-400 euros/month rent in a shared apartment. This is much cheaper than most West German cities, but it's not free. Still compared to the part of East London where I lived a couple of years ago, where I paid 28 euros/m2, and people were regularly shot/stabbed downstairs, it is a bargain. You might want to consider Leipzig. It's a beautiful smaller East German city, with considerably cheaper rents, only an hour from Berlin, with a great university and cool arts scene. Some people even call it the new Berlin, though that seems a little hyped, and a little unfair to both cities. Edited by patrickwilken on 03 June 2014 at 12:06pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4443 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 18 of 29 03 June 2014 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I know someone living in the US. Back in '89 we spent the summer in Taiwan. His Mandarin conversation
is still weak although his Chinese writing improved considerably. We exchanged Email in Chinese once in a while. He started learning German a few years ago and recently spent 2 weeks in Germany. It is still debatable whether you need to live in a country or at least spend time there to become fluent in that language. Polyglots like Moses McCormick would argue no. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4081 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 19 of 29 04 June 2014 at 9:21pm | IP Logged | |||||
How about student housing? Dont universities provide a dorm room for about €250? And inexpensive subsidized lunches. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| EnglishEagle Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4574 days ago 140 posts - 157 votes Studies: English*, German | Message 20 of 29 05 June 2014 at 12:14am | IP Logged | |||||
I looked online and it seemed to be around €200-250 at the most. It seems to be much cheaper as well! Additionally, I would like to thank everyone for their replies :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Elenia Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom lilyonlife.blog Joined 3855 days ago 239 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Swedish, Esperanto | Message 21 of 29 05 June 2014 at 1:39am | IP Logged | |||||
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It might be worth applying for a summer course. Quite a few German unis offer intensive
and non-intensive summer courses. I didn't do much in depth research when I was looking for myself, but the University of Munich offered the cheapest course of the few I looked at. I also think a few universities will offer preparatory courses for incoming students, but I am unsure of the details. Information for Munich's summer university is here. Good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4368 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 22 of 29 05 June 2014 at 2:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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I know there are universities in Germany with a B2 minimum, and if you're in the arts, I've even seen B1.
B2 or C1 are probably doable within the amount of time you have. I think really your biggest weakness will likely be writing, because my guess is that you probably don't have much opportunity to really practice and improve it. For understanding lectures, you would probably be fine (after some initial language shock). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4532 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 23 of 29 05 June 2014 at 9:38am | IP Logged | |||||
I guess it depends how cheap you want to live. I still think 1000 euros/month overall is a closer lower estimate, once you consider you might want to buy clothes, a beer occasionally or even some books for your course. Edited by patrickwilken on 05 June 2014 at 9:39am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4081 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German | Message 24 of 29 05 June 2014 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
1000 euro per month is a LOT of money. Many people earn less than that. Rolling in the dough, eh Patrick :) I would say 250 euro for housing (check on this) 150 euro food 50 euro books 30 euro clothes and random stuff 50 euro bus So about 550 euro + healthinsurance cost + fun money. Then there is of course the university fee. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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