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| Alamo Joe Newbie United States Joined 4060 days ago 17 posts - 31 votes | Message 17 of 33 01 November 2013 at 5:11am | IP Logged | |||||
I should have specified that I meant that the "coursework" for organic chemistry at the undergraduate level was easier than the coursework for physical chemistry at that level. I didn't mean the entire subject of organic chemistry itself. For science majors there are usually two semesters of organic chemistry required. It's a two-semester overview of the subject. It doesn't really go into that much detail at the undergraduate level as far as I know. I was a biology major and I didn't take any chemistry courses beyond organic, so I don't really have an opinion on which is more difficult. The undergrad science and math majors whom I was referring to earlier felt that the coursework for physical chemsitry was much more difficult than organic was for them. That humbled me because I really couldn't imagine a course being any more difficult than organic was. Organic chemistry weeds out more pre-med students than any other course, including calculus and physics. So imagine how I felt when I heard that there were courses even more difficult than organic. You're probably right that organic becomes more difficult than physical chemistry at the advanced level, but for the two-semester undergrad courses, most science majors agree that physical chemistry is more difficult. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4253 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes  Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 18 of 33 01 November 2013 at 7:16am | IP Logged | |||||
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The verbs of movement are still giving me headache but I'm getting better...
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 19 of 33 01 November 2013 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | |||||
In my opinion, for pre-med students the killer is usually mathematics or physics because it's the first thing people want to forget. Organic chemistry isn't easy, but the reason you should be able to pass this is because it is 99% memorization and that is a skill you can learn by doing it really often and practicing. Easy. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| irrationale Tetraglot Senior Member China Joined 6050 days ago 669 posts - 1023 votes 2 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Tagalog Studies: Ancient Greek, Japanese | Message 20 of 33 01 November 2013 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Chinese.
Like climbing a mountain of sand that has no summit in sight. Not a steep climb, like a heavily declined language, but a slow climb that simply seems to have no end. Advanced level Chinese is, after so much effort, still rountinely running into unknown characters that a middle schooler knows. After so many ways to say the same thing with no rhyme or reason, learning yet another way. Yet another chengyu(4 character idiom) that you've never heard of but is "so common". And then there are all of the proper nouns, all the places and people, that you must relearn from scratch as their names are totally different from the West. I bet Arabic is a killer as well... Edited by irrationale on 01 November 2013 at 6:59pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4622 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian | Message 21 of 33 01 November 2013 at 7:39pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'd like to know how adults who are dropped into a Russian immersion environment tend to perform. Do they
end up speaking the language with many case errors but still in a fashion that makes them understandable to native speakers? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Alamo Joe Newbie United States Joined 4060 days ago 17 posts - 31 votes | Message 22 of 33 01 November 2013 at 8:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
Memorization is what saved me and enabled me to pass organic, even though I didn't quite understand what I was memorizing. The labs confused the hell out of me and I just ended up copying other people's work. Over here in the states, many pre-med students have already taken intro courses in calculus and physics in high school. So by the time they get to college, they've already been exposed to the material. Calc III (multivariable calculus) is where the material really becomes difficult. Fortunately that's not a requirement here for pre-med and bio majors. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lichtrausch Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 5960 days ago 525 posts - 1072 votes Speaks: English*, German, Japanese Studies: Korean, Mandarin | Message 23 of 33 02 November 2013 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
I thought pre-med students only need algebra-based physics? Which isn't really that bad. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Papashaw Newbie Australia Joined 4103 days ago 28 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin | Message 24 of 33 03 November 2013 at 6:11pm | IP Logged | |||||
Russian is this oh so hard? Way to stroke their egos. We ought to ramp up our own native languages.
I saw your posts when searching the archives, and my lord you are infuriating and worth correcting. I would not take much advice from you. Even correct advice is unnerving taken from the the likes of someone such as you. Edited by Papashaw on 03 November 2013 at 7:53pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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