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| Timur Newbie Turkey Joined 6577 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes | Message 1 of 5 02 August 2007 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I readed Türkish and Suomi have some common words (approximately 200-400) but i couldn't find any book in this subject.I find only one word :) from this dictionary ' http://efe.scape.net/ ' , 'sairas' means 'ill, sick,' in old Türkish 'Sayra (saira)' means ill-sick, but now Turkey's Turkish use 'hasta' but this word from Persian not Türkish origin.I'm a Yörük-Türkmen origin, we are speak in Türkey Yörük's Türkish or Yörük Türkmen language, it closer than Turkmen languge than Turkish, actually my native language Yörük Türkish but in Türkey official language İstanbul Türkish; briefly we are use this word, in Yörük-Türkmen lands in Türkey using this word 'sayra' but in general Türkish (it is very mixed language) use hasta.
And Saamis (or laplanders) live very closer Yörük's life stile.Are there any poeple in this site, who is have knowledge this subject, Suomi-Türkish common words, and Saamni language and cultures.I couldn't find Saami dictionary on internet. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Timur Newbie Turkey Joined 6577 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes | Message 2 of 5 02 August 2007 at 1:44pm | IP Logged | |||||
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My English is very bad sorry,I hope, you understand.
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes  20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 3 of 5 02 August 2007 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
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For most linguists, the theory of Uralo-Altaic linguistic kinship is a non-starter. In the 19th century it was actively pursued and supported by non-linguists and nationalists primarily as a way of adding a "scientific" dimension to claims of shared history or kinship between Finns, Hungarians, Turks, Huns and Mongols. While Uralic and Altaic languages share similarities in typology, syntax, phonology and vocabulary, it is disputed among linguists today whether these are areal features (i.e. features that are shared because of contact between otherwise unrelated ethnic groups living throughout the Eurasian steppes) or if they point to a distant but common linguistic origin in the same way as English and Farsi share a common but distant ancestor in the putative Proto-Indo-European language.
When it comes to similarities, comparative linguists such as the Nostratic school and Joseph Greenberg suggest that Uralic and Altaic languages may be related to each other through a larger family which includes other families such as Indo-European and Dravidian. For comparison's sake there are some Lappish and Turkish words that seem to be part of greater connections between Uralic and Altaic per the electronic etymological databases of Sergei Starostin. Most of these etymologies aren't supported by other comparative linguists, but some do seem thought-provoking. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7156 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 4 of 5 02 August 2007 at 8:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Here is a list of a few postulated cognates between Estonian, Finnish or Lappish and Turkic languages. The source is from those databases of Sergei Starostin that I mentioned above.
ække "father's brother", "paternal uncle" (Lappish) āGa "elder brother"; "elder uncle" (Turkmen) alkaa "to begin" (Finnish) alIn "forehead" (Turkish) ala "space"; alla "below" (Finnish) alt "bottom" (Turkish) ālta "old female reindeer" (Lappish) elik "roebuck", "wild goat" (Kazakh) aava "to open" (Finnish) angqar- "to be puzzled"; "to have one's mouth opened" (Turkmen) aivot "brain" (Finnish); vuoingâš "brain" (Lappish) anla- "to understand" (Turkish); ang "intelligence" (Kyrgyz) čuk'ča "blackcock" (Lappish) sülgün "pheasant" (Turkmen) joki "river" (Finnish) ak- "to flow" (Turkish) kaaren "raven" (Estonian) karga "crow" (Turkish) kupla "bubble" (Finnish) köpük "foam" (Turkish) küna "trough" (Estonian) könek "bucket", "vessel" (Kazakh) kynsi "nail" (of the finger or toe) (Finnish) qïčï- "to scratch" (Tatar) kyynärpää "elbow" (Finnish - pää "head") kanat "flank", "wing" (Turkish) njoammel "rabbit" (Lappish) jomran "gopher" (Tatar) pilvi "cloud" (Finnish) bulut "cloud" (Turkish) sota "war" (Finnish) sata-š- "to be ill-treated" (Turkmen) tuma "nucleus", "kernel" (Finnish) tamïr "vein", "artery"; "root" (Kazakh) unohtaa "to forget" (Finnish) unutmak "to forget" (Turkish) 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6597 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 5 of 5 06 August 2007 at 9:58pm | IP Logged | |||||
btw, alta means "from under/from below".
avata is the Finnish for the verb to open. aava is an adjective, which can also be translated as wide or vast. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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