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| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7015 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes  Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 17 of 35 15 June 2006 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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Yes you're right, if we speak Spanish it's of the Andalucian variety. I'm the one who didn't fully understand your post.
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| sigiloso Heptaglot Groupie Portugal Joined 6779 days ago 87 posts - 103 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, PortugueseC1, Galician, French, Esperanto, Italian Studies: Russian, Greek | Message 18 of 35 20 June 2006 at 11:51am | IP Logged | ||
Ooooops ... reparation job to be done here. I was a jerk really, not even in English writing forum you can get rid of Andalusians :) Don't take it to hard, I try to stir up the forum with controversial probably silly points. But the point here is that, in spite of my knowing that Andalusians are as intelligent (or not) as the rest, and that nothing is certainly wrong with any accent, that bit of a reaction is trigged in my mind irrationally, and I am just aware that I have a big company on this in all of us using north accent. I remember an instance of walking away from a beautiful blonde Andalucian on the grounds of accent, and feeling stupid and unfair afterwards. This is the kind of information the original poster was after. How many news readers with southern accents broadcast nationwide? they are rarely hired. Like it or not, in our collective linguistic unconscious, northern accent is the one to ideally have. Canarians have told me of on purpose efforts to acquire it. This is never talked about, I could offer my opinion, but who cares about my opinion, the original poster wanted connotations information. Sorry, EDIT: I forgot to mention that you have shown such a wittiness in your reply, that I am sure with a little effort on my part, any stupid unfair connotation will be overcome and if we ever meet personally I am sure we will do fine. I d love to take you around on my lorry. Edited by sigiloso on 20 June 2006 at 11:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7015 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 19 of 35 20 June 2006 at 2:43pm | IP Logged | ||
Now that wasn't very bright, was it? Worthy of an Andalucian perhaps? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Lucia Diglot Senior Member Spain Joined 6820 days ago 146 posts - 147 votes Speaks: English, Spanish* Studies: German | Message 20 of 35 20 June 2006 at 4:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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Sigiloso,there is no such thing as a northern accent.Do Gallegos,Vascos,Aragoneses etc. sound the same to you ?
Newsreaders speak in a standard,no-accent,Spanish,just like BBC newsreaders do. There was a time in Spain,the "una,grande y libre " days,when there was only one acceptable way of speaking and thinking.All the rest were "catetos" and "rojos".If you were educated that way,I can understand your feelings. I believe that if you were more tolerant of differences you would appreciate the beauty of all the accents and languages of Spain. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| sumabeast Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6926 days ago 212 posts - 220 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written) | Message 21 of 35 20 June 2006 at 6:16pm | IP Logged | ||
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thanks guys this gives me an idea for another thread.
like Spanish, Arabic is also spoken over a wide geographical area with many countries somewhere around 20 countries also. and each country has its unique variety and accent. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| lady_skywalker Triglot Senior Member Netherlands aspiringpolyglotblog Joined 6890 days ago 909 posts - 942 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian | Message 22 of 35 20 June 2006 at 9:33pm | IP Logged | ||
I would assume that this is similar to English speakers who wanting the 'BBC' standard pronunciation back in the old days. Nowadays, people in the UK are generally a lot more accepting of regional accents. Accents exist in any country you go to. While the majority of them do have an official standard, to say that regional accents do not exist elsewhere would be plain stupidity. As for turning people down for jobs because of their accent, well, discriminating on the grounds of the way one speaks is almost as bad as any other type of discrimination. I also agree with Lucia that there is bound to be more than just one accent in the north. If you are refering to the 'Madrid' accent, then that is just one of many accents. I'm sure the Catalans, Basques and Galicians all speak Castilian with their own distinct accents. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7015 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 35 21 June 2006 at 6:32am | IP Logged | ||
I'd say that it's just as bad as any other. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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