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| Alas Oscuras Diglot Newbie Mexico Joined 6860 days ago 38 posts - 38 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: French, Japanese | Message 33 of 35 29 June 2006 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I back Tadeo's affirmations on the perception of different accents.
The impression I've got of people in my surroundings is that Argentinean Castillian is generally liked. Maybe because it has a very distinct intonation. Yeah, maybe it is perceived as cool, but certainly not more or less proper than any other accent. Just different. Madrid's accent is viewed along the same lines, though without the coolness factor. Cuban accent sounds amusing to many people, I've heard hundreds of times people imitating a Cuban in many situations, and yes, puns. But as in any other.....dialect, could be said? (or is it too much?), there's no negative stigma against anyone because of his accent. Even the people of Yucatán who as Tadeo said, sound extremely funny to the people with the accent of central Mexico, especially Mexico City. I can't imagine someone giving a serious speech with that accent! But I actually like it. But now that I think about it, there's an accent that's stigmatized, but it's extremely regional. Some people in Mexico City speak with a charachteristic intonation,elongating the final syllables of the final word of a sentence. I'm not sure how to describe it, but these people are generally of very poor background, and haven't had a good education, so anyone who speaks with that accent is regarded as very uneducated. Hey Tadeo, about what you said on the dropping of unstressed vowels and consonant emphasizing in Mexico City's speech, I've read somewhere that it's because of the Náhuatl influence. Do you have any info on this? Or anyone? Oh, Lucia, I forgot. Probably you couldn't understand Amores Perros very well because they use lots of slang, tons. Edited by Alas Oscuras on 29 June 2006 at 10:01pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Alfonso Octoglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 6861 days ago 511 posts - 536 votes  Speaks: Biblical Hebrew, Spanish*, French, English, Tzotzil, Italian, Portuguese, Ancient Greek Studies: Nahuatl, Tzeltal, German | Message 35 of 35 01 July 2006 at 4:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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This is an interesting thread I missed to participate in for a while. I regret I didn't noticed this topic before. Sometimes I don't have enough time -due to my work- to check all the posts in every section of this forum dayly.
I don't know whether there are "chic" accents in Spanish. It depends on your taste. For example, many people here in Mexico dislike European Spanish accent (in fact most of people in Latin America usually don't distinguish between Andalusian, Madrilenian, Catalonian or Galician accent, they all sound the same for them and label them as "gachupín" Spanish). I personally like European Spanish and distinguish at least a little bit every accent listed above. Nevertheless I prefer myself standard Chilean accent. I find it quite elegant and well modulated.
I think that there is in the Mass Media (T.V. radio, internet) a kind of Spanish that we could name "standard Spanish" or "international Spanish" that consists in avoiding words, slang and any accent that could be too regional for the general audience. In the other hand, Mass Media and mainly movies allow us to be in contact with different accents in every language in spite of what Lucia said (for it's impossible to get rid 100% of one's own accent no matter how much we try to overcome it). When we watch BBC or CNC news, we listen to the different accents in English (British, U.S. etc.etc.). I think it's the same in Spanish. When I watch TVE (Televisión Española) I enjoy listening to the different accents. Unfortunatelly not all the people like to listen something in a different accent like his/her own. Sometimes we need to be patient to understand and admire something different.
So did I, although I'm Mexican. "Amores Perros" is a Mexican film composed by three stories. The first one shows how people, coming from the lowest socio-economical stratus in Mexico City, speak. The film presents a situation in which most of characters speak in a coarse and rude way and use lots of slang words that even Mexicans coming from outside the Capital (States) don't use. The second story shows a high-class couple speaking in a different (more "educated") way. BTW according to the story, the lady comes from Spain as far as I remember. Like everywhere else, there are always different accents between the various social, cultural and economical groups in a city, region or country.
Tadeo: Through all your posts in this topic I've realized that you know quite well many of the Spanish dialectal differences by region. It's a pity that I need to get used to the linguistical terms that I hardly know. :) Incredible! What I would like to add is that the vos form is used in the Mexican State of Chiapas (where I've lived for the last three years) and Guatemala. Here people say: vos cantás, vos hablás like in Aregentina. It's a familiar way to talk with someone you already know, it's informal. In fact, people here use the three forms to address someone: tú, usted and vos. Edited by Alfonso on 01 July 2006 at 10:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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