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| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4374 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes  Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 9 of 18 03 March 2013 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | ||
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I didn't exactly use this method, but I think I can still contribute because it wasn't too long ago that I was at the same point where you were. Looking back, the cases and adjective endings were the biggest frustration that didn't need to exist. For several years I had a German teacher who really didn't explain the point of cases, or how they're used, so I was never confident in it. About a year and a half ago I decided to finally learn them.
What ultimately worked for me was writing down several sentences (lingoleng's post and examples are good places to start), and translating them into English literally, especially with the Dative and Genitive. At first, I even wrote out explanations of why a particular case or ending was used. That was probably a few times a week for several months. I also spent a lot of time reading Deutsche Welle. Unfortunately I didn't keep track of my hours like I am now, but I believe I started doing that in September, and by December I was at the point where, assuming I knew what the correct gender was, I was fairly confident in getting the correct case. I think my average was about 1-1 1/2 hours, definitely no more than 2 each time. It just required practice and repetition, and now the cases are the least of my problems in German! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| cod2 Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4559 days ago 48 posts - 69 votes | Message 10 of 18 03 March 2013 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thank you for all the replies. There is hope!
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6602 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 11 of 18 03 March 2013 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | ||
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There's certainly hope! But tbh it feels like you're not doing it with enough intensity. You can't get fluent with a sentence a day for 10,000 days. If you can't make more time for listening, do *something* in German. switch all interfaces to German (computer, phone, browser, google, facebook - you name it). listen to German music. use social networks for quick, small chunks of input.
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| Majka Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic kofoholici.wordpress Joined 4662 days ago 307 posts - 755 votes Speaks: Czech*, German, English Studies: French Studies: Russian | Message 12 of 18 03 March 2013 at 8:20pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have been lurking here and reading quietly, but now I have to say:
Although I am fluent in German, switching all the computer interfaces to German is cruel and unusual punishment unless you are living or working in German speaking country and have no other choice. I am admiring all the people who can work like this. Privately, I have switched everything I can to English (most practical when looking for troubleshooting) and on job I have "my software" (for translating etc.) in English and the rest in my native language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6602 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 13 of 18 03 March 2013 at 8:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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that's part of the AJATT method. ajatters do that even for JAPANESE, way before they are fluent.
you always have a choice though. Vistalizator was originally made mostly for the poor people who need to use Windows in their native language. it's not cruel. if you like the language, it's awesome. i switched pretty much everything I could to Finnish just a few months after starting the language. I would've switched Windows too if I had known about Vistallizator. To sum it up, you need either additional exposure or additional study. Decide for yourself what you prefer. See the AJATT twitter for inspiration. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| stifa Triglot Senior Member Norway lang-8.com/448715 Joined 4878 days ago 629 posts - 813 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, EnglishC2, German Studies: Japanese, Spanish | Message 14 of 18 03 March 2013 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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I changed Windows to Japanese once. Once.
Well, the day after that, I installed my external sound card (for bass playing), and the installation wizard was all question marks... so I just pressed next over and over; it ended up blue screening my computer every time I plugged in the sound card. I think I'll keep it in Norwegian. :p Edited by stifa on 03 March 2013 at 9:16pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6602 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 15 of 18 03 March 2013 at 10:11pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think it's better to give up on your native language than on (one of) your interests.
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| cod2 Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4559 days ago 48 posts - 69 votes | Message 16 of 18 05 March 2013 at 2:17pm | IP Logged | ||
You are absolutely right. I have been ignoring passive listening. I have started listening to German, Austrian and Swiss radios for 5-6 hours a day now. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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