ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4744 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 57 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:03pm | IP Logged |
Cool. I found one on abebooks.com
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?
bi=10452482485&searchurl=isbn%3D2700500393%26amp%3Bsts%3Dt
It has ISBN 10: 2700500393 / ISBN 13: 9782700500394 and shows 2005 as the release year
again. But, I suppose since the ISBN is for Without Toil as per BlaBla, I will just trust
it is correct and that I'm not paying $22.83 in shipping for a copy of Dutch With Ease,
haha.
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Kronos Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5294 days ago 186 posts - 452 votes Speaks: German*, English
| Message 58 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:09pm | IP Logged |
Should be the old course, the ambiguous title was probably taken from a database and automatically generated.
So the 1939 course, more or less unaltered, remained in print until 2005. For 66 years... almost a lifetime.
Edited by Kronos on 18 August 2013 at 8:13pm
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4740 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 59 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:13pm | IP Logged |
Re: youth, true, but the orthography reforms of the mid-90s were big. Although apparently
both spellings were in free circulation, I thought the "k" spellings were dominant.
Apparently they were both correct even at the time.
The k spellings are definitely obsolete now though.
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ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4744 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 60 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:14pm | IP Logged |
Has anyone used the new Dutch With Ease from the German base? The English one is supposed
to be stellar, and I imagine it is the same for the German. Maybe I don't need to buy
this, haha.
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Kronos Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5294 days ago 186 posts - 452 votes Speaks: German*, English
| Message 61 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:24pm | IP Logged |
Thank God the German orthography reform in the 1990s met on sufficient resistance to have become almost irrelevant by now. Too many reforms can also complicate things. I now recall that during a trip to the Netherlands in the mid-nineties local people told me that such a reform was just underway.
@ ericblair: I have a hardcopy of the new Dutch with Ease from the German base, but not used it. The audio is OK, but bland and unpleasant compared to the earlier course which was a feast for the ears. But that may be my own preference.
Edited by Kronos on 18 August 2013 at 8:26pm
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5598 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 62 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:30pm | IP Logged |
I should also point that there is an even newer Le Neerlandais: Collection Sans Peine in
the French base by Ineke Paupert. Apparently (from the French reviews on Amazon.fr) it
is recorded using the Dutch accent of the Netherlands rather than the Flemish accent
used in Dutch With Ease.
I have it - but, unfortunately, like many impulse buys, it gathers dust awaiting my
attention :-(
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ericblair Senior Member United States Joined 4744 days ago 480 posts - 700 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French
| Message 63 of 72 18 August 2013 at 8:46pm | IP Logged |
I decided to buy it. This is my first learning material that has a base language other
than English. Hooray.
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BlaBla Triglot Groupie Spain Joined 4162 days ago 45 posts - 72 votes Speaks: German*, English, French Studies: Nepali, Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin
| Message 64 of 72 18 August 2013 at 11:57pm | IP Logged |
Kronos wrote:
Thank God the German orthography reform in the 1990s met on sufficient resistance to
have become almost irrelevant by now.
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To hell with it !
Kronos wrote:
@ ericblair: I have a hardcopy of the new Dutch with Ease from the German base, but not used it. The
audio is OK, but bland and unpleasant compared to the earlier course which was a feast for the ears. But
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You're not alone. I have both editions and IMO the newer one definetely lacks in terms of food value. I'll
possibly be in Groningen next month and might take both copies on the trip to ask for some opinions,
especially regarding the language used in the older edition.
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