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patuco
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 Message 33 of 42
21 January 2006 at 4:13am | IP Logged 
Niall Gallagher wrote:
Can any other native/non-native English speakers tell me if it's common, where they are, to "drop" the h from th? e.g. three becomes tree, this becomes dis, etc. As I do this frequently myself (much to my chagrin), and have become more conscious of trying to correct myself. It's common enough in some Dublin accents, but I'm curious as to whether it stretches further afield.

The old education system in Gibraltar used to be run by Irish Christian Brothers so quite a few of the older generation say things like "tousand", etc since they formally learned English with a slight Irish accent.
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Mga
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 Message 34 of 42
30 April 2006 at 12:49am | IP Logged 
My favorite consonant sounds are /X\/, /q/, /c/, /K/, and /K\/.

I'd say my favorite vowels are /M/, /y/, /1/, /{/, and /E/.
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allesgeht08
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 Message 35 of 42
16 June 2006 at 1:20pm | IP Logged 
German o-umlaut (The code won't work--sorry) is always fun, but I find it very hard to take someone seriously when they say it. It's just so fun-sounding!
guttral r's are my very favorite. I always feel left out because American English is the only language I can think of without cool r sounds. Even British English gets to just barely pronounce them sometimes, and that's much better than having to pronoucne every one. I hate our r's.
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sayariza
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 Message 36 of 42
18 June 2006 at 12:45am | IP Logged 
Niall Gallagher wrote:
Vespasian wrote:

I also like the English "th".


Can any other native/non-native English speakers tell me if it's common, where they are, to "drop" the h from th? e.g. three becomes tree, this becomes dis, etc. As I do this frequently myself (much to my chagrin), and have become more conscious of trying to correct myself. It's common enough in some Dublin accents, but I'm curious as to whether it stretches further afield.



In Indonesia there is a ethnic group: Sundanese with population almost 25 million. They live on the western part of Java Island. Some of them drop "h" from "th" and it is being "d" or "t', but not only that, they pronounce "z" as "s", "f" and "v" as "p".

so if they read this:

My name is Zakaria
I have three brothers, I am in the middle, my big brother is a fireman, my little brother is a vocalist of rock band. The name of the group band is "keraton".


many of them will read like this:

(read it on the similar way as German or Dutch read a sentence)

mai nem is Sakaria
ai hep tri brader, ai em in de midel, mai big brader is e payermen, mai litel brader is a pokalis op rock band. De nem op de grup band is "keraton"..

( e in sentence above should be read similar with a in English)

z will be = s
f and v will be = p
th will be = d or t




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Sinfonia
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 Message 37 of 42
18 June 2006 at 7:02am | IP Logged 
sayariza wrote:
Niall Gallagher wrote:
Vespasian wrote:

I also like the English "th".


Can any other native/non-native English speakers tell me if it's common, where they are, to "drop" the h from th? e.g. three becomes tree, this becomes dis, etc. As I do this frequently myself (much to my chagrin), and have become more conscious of trying to correct myself. It's common enough in some Dublin accents, but I'm curious as to whether it stretches further afield.



In Indonesia there is a ethnic group: Sundanese with population almost 25 million. They live on the western part of Java Island. Some of them drop "h" from "th" and it is being "d" or "t', but not only that, they pronounce "z" as "s", "f" and "v" as "p".



In case you haven't seen it, this subject has come up here:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=2646&PN=1&TPN=9
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sayariza
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 Message 38 of 42
20 June 2006 at 6:30am | IP Logged 
Sinfonia wrote:
sayariza wrote:
Niall Gallagher wrote:
Vespasian wrote:

I also like the English "th".


Can any other native/non-native English speakers tell me if it's common, where they are, to "drop" the h from th? e.g. three becomes tree, this becomes dis, etc. As I do this frequently myself (much to my chagrin), and have become more conscious of trying to correct myself. It's common enough in some Dublin accents, but I'm curious as to whether it stretches further afield.



In Indonesia there is a ethnic group: Sundanese with population almost 25 million. They live on the western part of Java Island. Some of them drop "h" from "th" and it is being "d" or "t', but not only that, they pronounce "z" as "s", "f" and "v" as "p".



In case you haven't seen it, this subject has come up here:
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=2646&PN=1&TPN=9


what do you mean actually?   
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RogueRook
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 Message 39 of 42
20 June 2006 at 8:26am | IP Logged 
In Hungarian I like the mixing of o-umlaut and u-umlaut occuring in words like

Gyöngyörü - gorgeous

Üdvözöl - greetings

Hope they get displayed correctly.

Also the platized G transcribed as "gy" is a very soft and pleasant sound. As I come to think of it Hungarian sounds very sexy spoken by a woman with a nice voice.

Jenö
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linguanima
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 Message 40 of 42
05 July 2006 at 9:19am | IP Logged 
I like the German o-umlaut, the English 'th' sound and the Portuguese 'sh' sound. The last one is really nice. You can hear a series of 'sh' in a normal Portuguese sentence. So soft. I also like the Greek soft 'g'. I don't quite like German and French 'r'. The most pleasant 'r' is that of Italian. I've spotted a little difference between the Italian 'r' and the Spanish one. The Italian sound stronger and more determined.


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