slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6676 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 25 of 45 18 January 2009 at 4:23am | IP Logged |
Don't look for corrections in those exchange sites. The goal is interaction with native speakers. I only want correction when they don't understand me.
If I want real corrections I pay a proof-reader or a good teacher. And be careful, you can find opportunists in this field.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
Mert87 Triglot Newbie Joined 5943 days ago 19 posts - 25 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English, German Studies: Latin, Ancient Greek
| Message 26 of 45 04 February 2009 at 7:39am | IP Logged |
Can't we use this lovely site for language exchanging ? :)
1 person has voted this message useful
|
Jiwon Triglot Moderator Korea, South Joined 6437 days ago 1417 posts - 1500 votes Speaks: EnglishC2, Korean*, GermanC1 Studies: Hindi, Spanish Personal Language Map
| Message 27 of 45 04 February 2009 at 10:14am | IP Logged |
Mert87 wrote:
Can't we use this lovely site for language exchanging ? :) |
|
|
Actually.. why not??
1 person has voted this message useful
|
Jiwon Triglot Moderator Korea, South Joined 6437 days ago 1417 posts - 1500 votes Speaks: EnglishC2, Korean*, GermanC1 Studies: Hindi, Spanish Personal Language Map
| Message 28 of 45 04 February 2009 at 10:22am | IP Logged |
johnL wrote:
I've been using lang-8 and Babbel for a month now, so I thought I'd re-post with my impressions. But first, I'd like to point out something that I really hadn't thought about before: Native speakers don't always know their own language very well!!! It's been sort of a given that by getting your language information from a native speaker, you're getting valid information. So you go to forums like lang-8 and Babbel to have native speakers correct your writing or help you in other ways, and sometimes the people you're writing with have no business telling someone else how to speak their language. On lang-8, I've seen some of the worst English ever written, and it was done by native English speakers, who thought they were "helping" someone learn English. And just yesterday, on Babbel, I was given wrong French corrections by 2 French people. (For a total of 3 that I know of.) I'm not criticizing the sites, just posting a caveat about learning from other people who may or may not know what they're talking about. Now, the sites:
1) lang-8. I have indeed had some French writing corrected by 2 native speakers there; I wrote back to both of them, and one responded and one did not. When I've posted something, the corrections came in just a day or so. Mostly I go there to help people learning English; I can't really say that I've made any connections, I'm just correcting others' writing.
2) Babbel. I've made contact with several people there that have resulted in multiple exchanges. Right now I'm exchanging with 4 people. The French language exercises are, for the most part, pretty good. (And they do have the French tutorials working now.) I sent a question to the support people on my first visit and never got a response, but when I report problems with the exercises, they respond to that. It's obvious that Babbel is new, but I go there every day, so that tells you something. |
|
|
Now you are making Babbel sound very tempting. Do they have German exercises too?
1 person has voted this message useful
|
dmg Diglot Senior Member Canada dgryski.blogspot.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 7012 days ago 555 posts - 605 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Dutch, Esperanto
| Message 29 of 45 04 February 2009 at 12:36pm | IP Logged |
I've been enjoying the lessons on Busuu. I've only had one experience chatting and haven't really looked for partners, but there are always a lot of users online.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
johnL Newbie United States Joined 6684 days ago 29 posts - 32 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French
| Message 30 of 45 05 February 2009 at 10:09pm | IP Logged |
Jiwon, German is one of the "official" languages of the site (English, German, French, Italian, Spanish), and the site is based in Germany, so I would think that they have exercises in German. I can't see them, because my profile shows that I'm studying French and Spanish, so I can only see the exercises in those languages. Also, there are many Germans using the site and many people who are studying German, so I suggest that you take a look.
1 person has voted this message useful
|
peppelanguage Triglot Groupie ItalyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5865 days ago 90 posts - 94 votes Speaks: Italian*, Spanish, English Studies: French, Swedish
| Message 31 of 45 11 February 2009 at 4:44am | IP Logged |
Hey!
I forgot to mention www.lingq.com but I think somebody else posted it (maybe not in this thread...but someone posted about lingq somewhere)....anyway...it's a good site..with courses, exercise...chats....take a look ;)
1 person has voted this message useful
|
William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6273 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French
| Message 32 of 45 28 March 2009 at 10:36pm | IP Logged |
On discussion lists and blogs in English, I am often struck by how bad the grammar and spelling is. Anyone who is learning English might learn some colloquialisms, but they are in danger of being led into mistakes by imitating some native speakers. What can I say? It's a jungle out there.
1 person has voted this message useful
|