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Jinx
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 Message 1 of 12
11 February 2011 at 1:47am | IP Logged 
Hey, has anyone heard the news about smart.fm closing its free services? Apparently they're going to start charging money, even to previously registered users, within a few months' time.

Is there a free alternative available? I haven't used this site much myself, but I hear that its technique is pretty special, not like your average flashcard site.
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ellasevia
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 Message 2 of 12
11 February 2011 at 2:26am | IP Logged 
Oh dear. I've been meaning to start going through their popular Japanese core 2000 and 6000 lists since last May, but still have not looked at more than 20 or so since then. I'd better get working if I don't want to pay... Thanks for letting us know!
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unzum
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11 February 2011 at 1:32pm | IP Logged 
For people learning Japanese there is the iphone app Japanese Sensei which gets its vocabulary from the same source as Core 2000 & 6000 but goes up to 10,000 words. It's $15.99 for the deluxe app with 10,000 words, which is a lot better value than smart.fm's 1,000 yen a month (considering how long it would take to learn all 6,000 words).
There's a free lite version to try out to see if you like the teaching approach.
I am now seriously considering getting an iphone just for this app...
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11 February 2011 at 2:07pm | IP Logged 
I downloaded all Chinese Media and Mastering Chinese Characters (html+mp3) a few years ago with HTTrack. I'm not interested in Japanese but if you tell me they are going to start charging for it I may as well download their Japanese Core.
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jimbo
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 Message 5 of 12
11 February 2011 at 3:45pm | IP Logged 
unzum wrote:
For people learning Japanese there is the iphone app
Japanese Sensei which
gets its vocabulary from the same source as Core 2000 & 6000 but goes up to 10,000 words.


Excellent! This is just what I need. Thanks!
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Jinx
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 Message 6 of 12
12 February 2011 at 1:25am | IP Logged 
giok wrote:
I downloaded all Chinese Media and Mastering Chinese Characters (html+mp3) a few years ago with HTTrack. I'm not interested in Japanese but if you tell me they are going to start charging for it I may as well download their Japanese Core.


giok, when you download flashcards etc. from the site using that app, can you still use them on your computer the way you do on the site? That sounds like it could be a really useful technique, but I had never heard of HTTrack until you mentioned it. Is it a free application?
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giok
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 Message 7 of 12
12 February 2011 at 10:18am | IP Logged 
Jinx wrote:
giok wrote:
I downloaded all Chinese Media and Mastering Chinese Characters (html+mp3) a few years ago with HTTrack. I'm not interested in Japanese but if you tell me they are going to start charging for it I may as well download their Japanese Core.


giok, when you download flashcards etc. from the site using that app, can you still use them on your computer the way you do on the site? That sounds like it could be a really useful technique, but I had never heard of HTTrack until you mentioned it. Is it a free application?


As for HTTrack, yes, it's a free application.
I am not familiar with the site and the way its flashcard system works, I just downloaded the html and mp3 files of Chinese Media and Mastering Chinese Characters. The short answer is probably no, but you may add sentences and mp3 files manually to Anki or another SRS. Keep in mind that I did this a few years ago, the site has changed a lot and I don't know if it's still possible to download an entire course as easily as before.
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 Message 8 of 12
12 February 2011 at 9:37pm | IP Logged 
Damn, this is terrible news! While great as supplement I wouldn't pay a cent for makeshift, lightweight, unidimensional internet courses like this one or Livemocha, which is also moving form free to pay content.

If money is to exchange hands, much better printed alternatives exist to all this. To complement my main textbooks they were fine though, so I'm sad at the loss of iKnow and Livemocha. I was waiting before I reached a higher level in Japanese before starting with iKnow; I'll have to use it intensively for the remaining three weeks or so of free service.


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