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| Hashimi Senior Member Oman Joined 6260 days ago 362 posts - 529 votes  Speaks: Arabic (Written)* Studies: English, Japanese | Message 1 of 5 05 March 2011 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
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Poland is a small country (ranked 69, i.e. 68 countries are bigger than it). It is smaller than Sweden, Japan, or Papua New Guinea. It has less population than 30 countries including Itlay, Spain, Ukraine, and Korea. On the other hand, there are 24 countries where Spanish is spoken by more than 500 million people on 3 different continents around the world. Yet we find that the Polish wikipedia is the 4th larger wikipedia after the English, the French, and the German wikis. It is larger than the Spanish, the Italian, the Russian, the Japanese, and the Portuguese. Even Chinese, the language spoken by more than 1500 millions! Why is the Polish wikipedia larger than all these wikis? Does Poland have more educated people than these coutnries? I can't imagine that. Russian is spoken by more tha 300 million, and the USSR was the most advanced country in the Eastern bloc, so Russia must have more educated people. Is it the IQ? I know that the average IQ in Poland is higher than that in Russia, Spain, and even the United States, but the average IQ of the Chinese, the Italians, and the Koreans is higher than that of the Polish. (see "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" by Dr. Richard Lynn) It is not just the Wikipedia. We all know about the great Polish linguists and polyglots from Zamenhoff (Esperanto) and Moshe Kroskof (Michel Thoms) to Piotr Wozniak (Supermemo), Tomasz P. Szynalski (Antimoon), and not to forget the beloved eccentric siomotteikiru (aYa, atamagaii, turaisiawase). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| gabko Bilingual Triglot Newbie Slovakia Joined 5172 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Hungarian*, English Studies: German | Message 2 of 5 05 March 2011 at 5:44pm | IP Logged |
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My guess is they have good group of people to make wikipedia large.Also in some countries
is wikipedia not really popular. I know little bit Polish people and they like to be better in lot of things just to show others.... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5767 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 3 of 5 05 March 2011 at 5:58pm | IP Logged |
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China tends to block wikipedia at times and for certain issues, or totally. It also is or was blocked in Cuba, I wouldn't be surprised it it was the same case for most of Latin America. There's also the question of how much of the population has internet access in general.
Also, I've read about study that looked at edits that were made on wikipedia in different languages, categorizing the kind of edit and putting it in relationship to gender and society the editor came from. Their results showed that for example Japanese speakers are much less likely to add, change or correct the content than the form, whereas in some Western languages it was the opposite. One Japanese speaker once told me that anonymous forums are more widespread than forums where you have to register to post. So maybe it is alright to say that the internet is used differently in different societies and subcultures. People in Poland might just be more proactive about editing wikipedia than people from other places. You shouldn't come to conclusions from relating average IQ and an individual's IQ. It just doesn't work. I didn't read the book you mention, but from what I've heard, there is no direct link between a country and the average IQ of its citizens. There is a direct link between nutrition, education and state of health and the average IQ of a population, and there is a link between a country and its GPI, it's social welfare system, health system and education, which does mean there may well be an indirect link between a country and the average IQ of its citizens. But this still doesn't say anything about an individual or a group of individuals. When it comes to internet access, you should expect the most priviledged of a country to be the first ones to have it - and those are most likely to not have suffered from malnutrition, disease or lack of stimulus, so they are the ones with the highest chance to develop to their full potential. Edited by Bao on 05 March 2011 at 5:59pm 8 persons have voted this message useful | |
| luhmann Senior Member Brazil Joined 5334 days ago 156 posts - 271 votes Speaks: Portuguese* Studies: Mandarin, French, English, Italian, Spanish, Persian, Arabic (classical) | Message 4 of 5 07 March 2011 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
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The Polish wikipedia may rank high on the total number of articles, but statiscally they seem to be of low quality. They probably create a great number of stubs due to the desire of appearing amongst the top ranking wikipedias. See:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikipedias "The "Depth" column (Edits/Articles × Non-Articles/Articles × Stub-ratio) is a rough indicator of a Wikipedia’s quality, showing how frequently its articles are updated. It does not refer to academic quality, which cannot be computed, but to Wikipedian quality, i.e. the depth of collaborativeness—a descriptor that is highly relevant for a Wikipedia." Edited by luhmann on 07 March 2011 at 2:28pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| ruskivyetr Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5482 days ago 769 posts - 962 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Polish, Modern Hebrew | Message 5 of 5 07 March 2011 at 9:48pm | IP Logged |
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Perhaps it's just that Polish internet users are more active. There also tend to be trends with certain websites in
different countries. For example, Facebook is used actively in both the USA/Canada/UK and in the community of German people that I know. Unfortunately not many of the Poles I know in Poland use Facebook. Maybe it happens to be that Spanish speakers don't really use Wikipedia because it's not common to them, and it is in Poland. IQ has nothing to do with Wikipedia, and labeling one nation as more "intelligent" than another isn't particularly nice. Also, not everyone's IQ is known, therefore making "average IQs" an invalid number. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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