sfuqua Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4769 days ago 581 posts - 977 votes Speaks: English*, Hawaiian, Tagalog Studies: Spanish
| Message 1 of 16 29 January 2012 at 5:17pm | IP Logged |
I am learning Spanish Using Assimil, which uses European Spanish as a model. I am a beginner. I teach many kids who are native speakers of Spanish from Mexico. They all agree that what little Spanish I speak has an "Italian" accent. They think it's cute.
What? I'm a native speaker of English. I also speak Samoan and Tagalog. My only exposure to Italian is movies. What am I doing that sounds "Italian" to the kids, I wonder? Has this happened to other people?
They aren't talking about the obvious "th" sounds in Castillian Spanish versus "s" in Mexican Spanish, that's a separate issue. They seem to be talking about intonation or something.
I'm happy enough to have a "cute Italian accent" on my Spanish, but I wonder what they are hearing :)
steve
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Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5385 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 2 of 16 29 January 2012 at 5:27pm | IP Logged |
I think that Italian stressed syllables have more intensity than the Spanish ones. Don't
put so much emphasis on stressed syllables and this should improve.
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Alexander86 Tetraglot Senior Member United Kingdom alanguagediary.blogs Joined 4985 days ago 224 posts - 323 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German, Catalan Studies: Swedish
| Message 3 of 16 29 January 2012 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
They're hearing your cute little Italian accent, as time goes on it will improve and you'll sound less Italian and more
Spanish. I had exactly the same issue, as I speak English (which doesn't follow Spanish intonation) I used Italian as
a model, albeit subconsciously, for my Spanish. It took a while, but my Italian accent slowly disappeared =)
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5134 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 4 of 16 29 January 2012 at 7:00pm | IP Logged |
Alexander86 wrote:
I used Italian as a model, albeit subconsciously, for my Spanish. |
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Just curious, but why? How did it even get into your subconscious to then be used as a model?
R.
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sfuqua Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4769 days ago 581 posts - 977 votes Speaks: English*, Hawaiian, Tagalog Studies: Spanish
| Message 5 of 16 29 January 2012 at 8:40pm | IP Logged |
For me, I bet the overly simplified version of Spanish intonation that
I'm using at this point in my development just sounds Italian. I think
Arekkusu is right; I'm hitting accented syllables too hard, and this
superficially sounds Italian.
Steve
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jukimet Diglot Newbie United Kingdom Joined 4681 days ago 5 posts - 16 votes Speaks: Catalan*, English Studies: Mandarin
| Message 6 of 16 16 February 2012 at 3:43am | IP Logged |
Something similar happens to me... I speak English with a Welsh/Catalan twang, I'm sick and tired to people asking me if I'm Welsh...
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GRagazzo Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4965 days ago 115 posts - 168 votes Speaks: Italian, English* Studies: Spanish, Swedish, French
| Message 7 of 16 16 February 2012 at 6:09am | IP Logged |
I do the same thing, I know how to speak with a purer Spanish accent but I for some
reason enjoy the sound of an Italian accent while speaking Spanish.
Edit: In response to your question, just expose yourself to more spoken Spanish and the
accent will come.
Edited by GRagazzo on 16 February 2012 at 6:19am
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6601 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 8 of 16 16 February 2012 at 12:13pm | IP Logged |
I'm sure that's because Italian is more special to you :-)
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