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Why an Italian accent in Spanish?

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sfuqua
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 Message 1 of 16
29 January 2012 at 5:17pm | IP Logged 
I am learning Spanish Using Assimil, which uses European Spanish as a model. I am a beginner. I teach many kids who are native speakers of Spanish from Mexico. They all agree that what little Spanish I speak has an "Italian" accent. They think it's cute.

What? I'm a native speaker of English. I also speak Samoan and Tagalog. My only exposure to Italian is movies. What am I doing that sounds "Italian" to the kids, I wonder? Has this happened to other people?

They aren't talking about the obvious "th" sounds in Castillian Spanish versus "s" in Mexican Spanish, that's a separate issue. They seem to be talking about intonation or something.

I'm happy enough to have a "cute Italian accent" on my Spanish, but I wonder what they are hearing :)

steve
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Arekkusu
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 Message 2 of 16
29 January 2012 at 5:27pm | IP Logged 
I think that Italian stressed syllables have more intensity than the Spanish ones. Don't
put so much emphasis on stressed syllables and this should improve.
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Alexander86
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 Message 3 of 16
29 January 2012 at 5:59pm | IP Logged 
They're hearing your cute little Italian accent, as time goes on it will improve and you'll sound less Italian and more
Spanish. I had exactly the same issue, as I speak English (which doesn't follow Spanish intonation) I used Italian as
a model, albeit subconsciously, for my Spanish. It took a while, but my Italian accent slowly disappeared =)
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hrhenry
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 Message 4 of 16
29 January 2012 at 7:00pm | IP Logged 
Alexander86 wrote:
I used Italian as a model, albeit subconsciously, for my Spanish.

Just curious, but why? How did it even get into your subconscious to then be used as a model?

R.
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sfuqua
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 Message 5 of 16
29 January 2012 at 8:40pm | IP Logged 
For me, I bet the overly simplified version of Spanish intonation that
I'm using at this point in my development just sounds Italian. I think
Arekkusu is right; I'm hitting accented syllables too hard, and this
superficially sounds Italian.
Steve
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jukimet
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16 February 2012 at 3:43am | IP Logged 
Something similar happens to me... I speak English with a Welsh/Catalan twang, I'm sick and tired to people asking me if I'm Welsh...
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GRagazzo
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 Message 7 of 16
16 February 2012 at 6:09am | IP Logged 
I do the same thing, I know how to speak with a purer Spanish accent but I for some
reason enjoy the sound of an Italian accent while speaking Spanish.

Edit: In response to your question, just expose yourself to more spoken Spanish and the
accent will come.

Edited by GRagazzo on 16 February 2012 at 6:19am

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 Message 8 of 16
16 February 2012 at 12:13pm | IP Logged 
I'm sure that's because Italian is more special to you :-)


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