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| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes  Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 9 of 10 27 March 2012 at 4:22pm | IP Logged |
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This is somewhat colloquial, just like inserting QUE or É QUE
O que que você quer hein? In the Brazilian translation, called ''O pequeno príncipe'' the sentence in question is: ''Basta olhá-las, aspirar o perfume. A minha embalsamava o planeta, mas eu não me contentava com isso. A tal história das garras, que tanto me agastara, me devia ter enternecido. '' In Brazil, Eu queria é dançar e me divertir is more probable than Eu queria era dançar e me divertir, when referring to the present/future situation. Eu queria era dançar e me divertir refers to the past (I wanted to dance and have fun). Eu queria é dançar e me divertir refers to the present/future (I would like to dance and have fun). More often then not, the full forms are preferred in Brazilian Portuguese: ''O que eu quero é sair por aí sem destino Sem parar pra pensar no futuro Eu não posso parar, fica frio Vamos desencanar.'' When used, many times it's just a frozen É (not agreeing with the tense or person) ''Pra que falar, se você não quer me ouvir. Fugir agora não resolve nada. Mas não vou chorar. SE VOCÊ QUIS É PARTIR . Às vezes a distância ajuda '' (Ivete Sangalo) Se você quis é partir, instead of Se você quis foi partir. This just confirms that the two constructions separated in Brazilian Portuguese: Partir foi/é o que você quis (Leaving was/is that what you wanted ) [variable agreement] VS Se você quis é partir. (if leaving is that what you wanted) [frozen É] Compare with QUE/É QuE Ela te falou o quê? O que ela te falou? O que que ela te falou? O que é que ela te falou? O que foi que ela te falou? O que que foi que ela te falou? O que é que foi que ela te falou? Edited by Medulin on 27 March 2012 at 5:06pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Mecketh Newbie Brazil Joined 4612 days ago 1 posts - 2 votes Speaks: Portuguese* | Message 10 of 10 11 April 2012 at 5:07am | IP Logged |
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Sorry to resurrect the thread but I saw that the original poster was not answered so I
just want to add a little feedback as a native speaker to Outcast: This form is what we call subjunctive. It how we talk about possibilities. ``Deve-se é olhar para elas e cheirá-las.`` ´´Devia era ter-me enternecido.`` In the first sentence the author is talking about a possibility of action that must be done about the flowers(note that this action is not mandatory, is a possibilities of action, a suggestion), in the second about something he wished he could do but didn’t. When you see a verb with the ending ´´ia``(seria, poderia, desejaria) they usually means a future that the speaker is wishing to happen. Preciso é de uma cadeira(What I need is a chair not this). Preciso de uma cadeira(I need a chair) Both are phrases in the subjunctive but they have one big difference: in the first the speaker alludes that he received something instead of the thing he really wanted. In the second phrase the speaker is expressing a wish for something that he don’t have. You could look at this example made with both phrases: -Preciso de uma cadeira-says the tired man. A friend brings him a stair thinking he wished something to each something higher. -Preciso é de uma cadeira! Just a silly and quick example made to illustrate the point. Medulin: Sorry but your examples are actually wrong, in colloquial language the average Brazilian speaker would just use the verb with the end ´´ia`` and forget about using any other verb. In formal settings we would use the correct sentence structure. - Eu queria dançar e me divertir (colloquial- the verb queria already gives the notion of subjunctive in the present/past/future). -O que eu queria era dançar e me divertir.(formal) In the song you quoted the correct phrase is: Se você QUISER partir. The verb in the infinitive again shows a possibility of action characteristic of the subjunctive mode. Just my 2 cents, C 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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