DaraghM Diglot Senior Member Ireland Joined 6149 days ago 1947 posts - 2923 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Russian, Hungarian
| Message 1 of 20 25 May 2012 at 4:23pm | IP Logged |
As most experienced learners on this forum know, there isn't any course that can guarantee basic fluency in a language. However, there are some courses that can bring you quite close to that level. The only ones I know are,
Spanish
Platiquemos \ FSI Basic Course 1 - 4
Difusión Aula 1 - 4 (classroom based course)
Russian
Modern Russian 1 & 2 (This might just be B1+)
Do you know other courses that might approach this level ?
Edited by DaraghM on 25 May 2012 at 4:25pm
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 2 of 20 25 May 2012 at 4:37pm | IP Logged |
The Langenscheidt Finnish textbook (in German) should bring you very close to basic fluency, from scratch.
Also Assimil!
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 3 of 20 25 May 2012 at 5:06pm | IP Logged |
Finnish
Finnish for Foreigners vols. 1 & 2
FSI Conversational Finnish *
Polish
"Universitas" series:
Cześć, jak się masz? vols. 1-2 (A1 & A2)
Z polskim na ty (B1)
Kiedyś wrócisz tu... vols. 1-2 (B2 & C1)
Slovak
"Slovenčina ako cudzí jazyk" series:
Hovorme spolu po slovensky A (A1-A2)
Hovorme spolu po slovensky B (B1-B2)
To get over the hump to become "basically fluent", I'd recommend that anyone using these courses also converse with native speakers and improve passive abilities through exposure to suitable authentic materials. It's hard to learn active skills when your only exposure to the target language is what's in the course even though I do vouch for the high quality of the courses listed in this post.
*Per the following
Rytkönen-Bell, A. et al. “Conversational Finnish”, xi. wrote:
“The aim and purpose of your textbook, “Conversational Finnish”, is to serve as a basic course. With this book you are expected to develop the skills needed for fluent workable proficiency in Finnish. This translates to a level of 2 to 2+ on the Interagency Language Roundtable (ILR) scale and “advanced” proficiency on the ACTFL scale. This book is designed for the first six months of an intensive ten-month course in US government language schools.” |
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dbag Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5020 days ago 605 posts - 1046 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish
| Message 4 of 20 25 May 2012 at 7:26pm | IP Logged |
What a fantastic topic, thanks for starting it !
I had never heard of Difusión Aula before. Can it be utilized by the independent
learner?
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hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5128 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe
| Message 5 of 20 25 May 2012 at 8:59pm | IP Logged |
I think a lot of the courses designed for in-country immigrants come labeled with CEFR levels.
I know, for example, that På Vei, Stein på stein nd and Her Berget are labeled A1/A2, B1/B2 and C1, respectively for Norwegian.
Yeni Hitit Vols 1-3 for Turkish learners are also designed to take the learner from A1/A2 to C1 on the CEFR scale.
I'm sure there are many other similar courses, but I'm familiar with these two series.
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MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6445 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish
| Message 6 of 20 24 October 2013 at 6:00pm | IP Logged |
"Streamline English" certainly goes into this category. It has 4 volumes with 80 units
each + "speachwork" (audio-lingual drills). There is also an American version, "New
American Streamline". The best English course there is, IMO.
I wonder if there is an Italian course with audio-lingual approach and lots of audio
exercises. I haven't found anything so far. "In Italiano" by Chiuchiu is excellent, but
there is no audio for the drills.
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Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5863 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque
| Message 7 of 20 24 October 2013 at 6:12pm | IP Logged |
I'm sure there are plenty of classroom textbooks aimed to take you to a higher level, but i've found these often aren't as useful as courses designed for self-study.
I'd like to hear about courses that parallel Platiquemos in comprehensiveness. I've heard good things about the Hungarian FSI course, but it's not on my hitlist.
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 8 of 20 24 October 2013 at 7:24pm | IP Logged |
Teastas Eorpach na Gaeilge (The European Certificate in Irish) - TEG has a downloadable syllabus for each CEFR level (up to C1).
Gaeilge gan Stró vol 1 more or less matches A1 perfectly and the second volume matches B1. Based on the content and grammar coverage in those books, I'd call myself fluent (the day I'm through both of them, that is!).
Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 24 October 2013 at 7:25pm
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