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| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6230 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 9 of 15 16 August 2012 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wow tyeers, that is really interesting. It never occurred to me that speakers would blend the accents, but that
totally makes sense! I may have to get in touch with you to speak once I get a little Vietnamese under my belt! I think I am going to mainly work off of the Assimil course for the simple reason that the recordings are the most listenable! The FSI/DLI ones sound artificial and the TYS ones sound like they were recorded at double speed, not to mention that half the TYS CDs are the English narrator reading the instructions that are clearly written in the text! Geez that is annoying! X-P 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mekalika Diglot Senior Member United States sarahnguyen.com/ Joined 7070 days ago 30 posts - 33 votes Studies: Vietnamese, English*, German | Message 10 of 15 17 August 2012 at 3:26am | IP Logged | ||
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Hmm tyeers, my mom and your parents seem to have the same background: north Vietnamese accent with south
Vietnamese words. Is using "z" for "g" (like in gió/wind) really a 'strong' north Vietnamese accent? I just assumed all northerners speak that way. My dad is from the south and he has problems telling me how to spell words that might have the missing 6th tone. Go figure, my dad, who reads hundreds of books a year in English, can't tell me how to write 'milk' or 'repair'...(sữa, sửa). So the advantage with the northern accent is actually being able to spell ;D Edited by mekalika on 17 August 2012 at 3:27am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| JohnPaul Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5711 days ago 28 posts - 63 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish | Message 11 of 15 17 August 2012 at 10:38am | IP Logged | ||
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Xin Chao,
Liddytime, good luck with your mission to learn Vietnamese. It is true that finding good materials for self study of "Tieng Viet" is quite difficult. I am eager to know your experience with the Vietnamien san peine. I have been contemplating an order. Have you looked into the full Cortina Vietnamese course as well? It looks promising but a touch expensive. You may want to look for a course published by Hippocrene books, they are fairly priced and well reviewed. My knowledge of Vietnamese is limited, however, I spent about a year and a half shuttling between San Francisco and Saigon on a tri-weekly basis. I think you are right to be focused on the Saigon/Southern dialect. You will find more speakers to practice with overseas, and if you are interested in using this skill to enhance your career your better off with it as well. I noticed the southerners were much more open to speaking with you too. I made a short trip back in March to visit friends after a year away from Vietnam, and I know that should I return to working there that I will want to have a much greater understanding. I will say the following from experience, if you use the Pimsleur Vietnamese, you must do so carefully. In their generally sage attempt at teaching more formal salutations first, they have inadvertently caused other problems. Don't call a younger woman "Ba" Have fun and keep us all apprised of your progress! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6230 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 12 of 15 18 August 2012 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | ||
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I was listening to the podcasts recommended by tyeers. It is clear that while Assimil and Pimsleur use a
Northern dialect, it is nowhere near as pronounced as in the NHK podcast! Wow! They both use the "z" for "g" and "r" but I don't think a Southerner would have problems understanding it. I do think I like the Southern accent a little better; it just sounds a little "softer" on the ears! Edited by liddytime on 18 August 2012 at 4:17pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| JohnPaul Diglot Newbie United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5711 days ago 28 posts - 63 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish | Message 13 of 15 19 August 2012 at 4:55am | IP Logged | ||
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Liddytime,
Thanks for your last post. I appreciate learning that the Assimil is the northern dialect. This doesn't discourage me from using it, but it does make me want to put other resources to work first. I would prefer to continue with the Southern dialect for now. Good luck! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6230 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 14 of 15 19 August 2012 at 5:19am | IP Logged | ||
It is funny, the Assimil course says in the intro matter that it is the "Standard dialect; the dialect of educated Vietnamese that can be used anywhere in the country"... but I can totally tell, even from my 2 weeks of Vietnamese study, that it is the Northern dialect!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 15 of 15 28 August 2013 at 3:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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Many South Vietnamese singers sing with the Northern accent,
just like many singers from Southern US states (like Britney Spears) sing with a more Northern US accent ;) The accent in New Orleans or Mobile may be softer but the one from Indianapolis or Columbus is clearer. ;) Edited by Medulin on 28 August 2013 at 3:54pm 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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