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| zerrubabbel Senior Member United States Joined 4605 days ago 232 posts - 287 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Mandarin | Message 1 of 9 09 January 2013 at 8:51pm | IP Logged | ||
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the question at hand here is rather strange to explain, but basically, I'm playing around with approaches for using
reading authentic material as a means to acquire words... this is my first foreign language and moving into advanced learning, I find I have a general Idea as to what I need to do, but what im really wondering is... *Does reading aloud provide any advantage to gaining active ability in the language? * it seemed intuitive to me at first but I can think of a reason or two why it wouldnt work out... but before I share those reasons, I would like to know other peoples opinion about it... as always, thanks guys ^.^ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4741 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 9 10 January 2013 at 12:52am | IP Logged | ||
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I think the main problem with reading aloud as a means of gaining active ability in the
language is that your speech is essentially unmonitored. So if this were your only speech practice, you could fossilize some bad habits. Not to mention that if it were your only speech practice, you wouldn't be practicing natural conversation. On top of that, reading silently and reading out loud are different exercises, so reading exclusively out loud could hinder your progress reading silently. But as an occasional exercise I think it could be valuable. Particularly if you have someone who can critique your reading. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6602 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 3 of 9 10 January 2013 at 1:26am | IP Logged | ||
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As you asked about reading strategies, see this: http://learnanylanguage.wikia.com/wiki/Strategies_for_Readin g_Books
especially, read about Scriptorium in the last section. this is definitely more powerful than only reading aloud, and in most cases probably more useful. The main problem, in my opinion, is that the main advantage of reading as a vocab acquisition method is the speed, but if you read aloud, you'll probably read *slower* than a professional narrator. In my experience, listening is already useful enough and activates your knowledge if you do it sufficiently. I'd say it's much better to use audiobooks than to read aloud, at least with large chunks of the text. Also, unless I'm in public (family members don't count), I tend to read aloud the individual words I consciously want to remember. Of course these are not all words I want/need to learn, but this still feels useful. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Sibsil Triglot Newbie China Joined 4819 days ago 9 posts - 27 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, Korean, English | Message 4 of 9 10 January 2013 at 2:13am | IP Logged | ||
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Reading aloud a foreign language is very hard. Hard things usually good when learning. No pain no gain. You may think you good when you read in your head, but then you try to read aloud and you find you not really so good at all. I think reading aloud one of the most important exercises you can do.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6602 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 5 of 9 10 January 2013 at 2:15am | IP Logged | ||
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It can be a good test but I would only recommend reading an entire book aloud if you're learning a rare language and you don't have any long recordings.
edit: and very importantly, if you do decide to read a whole book aloud, make sure not to feel like a #FAIL if you don't feel like it next day. It's totally okay to alternate, and it should be a higher priority to just keep going than to make the most of it. (Female learners, beware of forcing yourself to do what was easy and effortless yesterday and what you suddenly don't want. listen to your heart and not just your brain!) Edited by Serpent on 10 January 2013 at 2:46am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| zerrubabbel Senior Member United States Joined 4605 days ago 232 posts - 287 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Mandarin | Message 6 of 9 10 January 2013 at 3:07am | IP Logged | ||
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well, for this particular book Im woking through, I dont have any audio for it, and I really dont think there is any... as
for pronounciation issues, I think they will be minimal, I find japanese quite easy in that area... I think I will go ahead and read aloud to myself, but Ultimately I think I will end up toggling between aloud and silent... thank you all for your advice :D 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| sans-serif Tetraglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4564 days ago 298 posts - 470 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, German, Swedish Studies: Danish | Message 7 of 9 10 January 2013 at 11:35am | IP Logged | ||
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This is perhaps a bit off-topic, but I've been thinking about working my way through a short idiom dictionary with Glossika's sentence method. The way it works is you record yourself reading a bunch of sentences out loud and then review them by listening to those recordings repeatedly. It would be a good exercise even if all of those sentences don't become a part of your active repertoire.
As for reading out loud, I'm unsure of its efficacy for vocabulary retention, but it is a decent way to maintain your pronunciation once you have reached a good level. Recently I've also been trouble-shooting my Swedish pronunciation by recording myself reading and I'm finding it quite useful. EDIT: I feel silly to ask this, but do you write down new words as you come across them? Do you review them from time to time? Depending on your level you might be better off reading extensively for now, but there comes a point when it starts being very difficult to broaden your active vocabulary without intensive activities. I resisted the idea for many years, mainly because I hate how it breaks my flow, but it's one of those things you just have to do to keep improving. Edited by sans-serif on 10 January 2013 at 3:01pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| BaronBill Triglot Senior Member United States HowToLanguages.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4694 days ago 335 posts - 594 votes Speaks: English*, French, German Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Persian | Message 8 of 9 10 January 2013 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | ||
I do this as well. Especially in German as the words can be a little lengthy. It helps to say unfamiliar words aloud as well as it not only helps me get a grip on the pronunciation, but also helps reinforce the words for retention. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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