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Intensive reading + GoldList; Hebrew expt

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AML
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24 January 2013 at 11:37am | IP Logged 
After my 'Assimil Hebrew in 2 weeks', I decided to try a new experiment - reading an actual book. The biggest lesson I learned from the Assimil Hebrew experiment was that I wanted to incorporate a method to help me remember vocabulary. Even though my passive retention was pretty good for that two week Assimil experiment, I worried that it was too short-term and wanted something to help me remember new vocabulary for the long-term. Perhaps writing down new phrases would help.

The current experiment = Read a book intensively, aloud, and GoldList all of the unknown vocabulary.

Each of my GoldList entries was at least two words - almost never single vocabulary words. For example, "mom XXXX at me". Instead of goldlisting only the single word 'XXXX', I GoldListed the entire phrase "mom XXXX at me". This did not add any burden, because I already know the words 'mom', 'at', and 'me'. In fact, it only increased my understanding. For longer sentences, I picked a small phrase, 2-4 words, out of the sentence, including the unknown word.

Therefore, I decided to start using the GoldList method. It appealed to me for several reasons:
1. I like how GoldList is supposed to be a fairly flexible, relaxed, and stressless method.
2. I like the idea of getting Hebrew writing practice.
3. The book contains vowel points, but my handwriting doesn't, so this allows me to read the phrase both with and without vowel points.
4. Although I like using Anki, I'm lazy about making cards. I want to use good cards that people have already made, which are few and far between. And there aren't Anki cards of the specific materials I'm using.
5. I stare a lot at a computer screen, so GoldList let's me break away a little bit (as opposed to Anki, which entails more staring at a screen).
6. I get practice pronouncing numbers, because I say the numbers out load as I write them down to number my headlists. This turned out to be more than a thousand numbers.

GoldList goes along well with intensive reading was because it gives built-in points to stand up and take a break (25 entries). I set for myself the simple goal of 50 GoldList entries for the day, which I divided into two sesions. It also allowed me to track my progress in terms of a "#sentence-read-VS.-#entires-into-my-GoldList" ratio. Some days I did more (75 entries), depending on time and how I felt.

Results
[# lines in the book : # GoldList entries]
Day 1: 31:50 (ratio = 0.62)
Day 2: 41:50 (ratio = 0.82)
Day 3: 51:50 (ratio = 1.02)
Day 4: 68:50 (ratio = 1.36)
Day 5: 71:50 (ratio = 1.42)
Day 6: 89:75 (ratio = 1.19)
Day 7: 60:50 (ratio = 1.20)
Day 8: 80:50 (ratio = 1.60)
Day 9: 86:75 (ratio = 1.15)
Day 10: 76:50 (ratio = 1.52)
Day 11: 139:75 (ratio = 1.85)
Day 12: 121:75 (ratio = 1.61)
Day 13: 104:75 (ratio = 1.39)
Day 14: 65:50 (ratio = 1.30)
Day 15: 63:50 (ratio = 1.26)
Day 16: 91:50 (ratio = 1.82)
Day 17: 75:50 (ratio = 1.50)
Day 18: 155:75 (ratio = 2.07)
Day 19: 147:75 (ratio = 1.96)
Day 20: 191:88 (ratio = 2.17)

I was able to steadily increase my ratio (#sentences read per #entries in GoldList), which meant that my Hebrew was improving. In the beginning, I read only 0.62 lines before I met something new and had to make an entry. By the end of the book, I met a new word/phrase once every 2.0 lines or so. This result is consistent with enhanced Hebrew reading skills/knowledge. Also, it intuitively makes sense because authors tend to use the same words multiple times and write in the same style throughout a particular book, and I apparently felt familiar with the new vocabulary when it repeated itself.

The book I read was 1804 sentences (counting as Glossika does), and I read the whole book one time over a 20-day period. I made 50-75 GoldList entries each day. I read until I made 25 entries in my notebook, then took a break, then another 25 entries, etc. The length of each break was variable (10 minutes - several hours).

Once I finished going through the book in this intensive manner, I re-read the first two chapters on Day 21, which I had seen only once before on Days 1-4, making GoldList entries along the way to track my progress as usual.
...re-read chapter one 104:47 (ratio = 2.21)
...re-read chapter two 112:39 (ratio = 2.87)
The combined result was 216:86 for a ratio of 2.51. Much improved from Days 1-4 (combined ratio = 0.96). Clearly I learned something. If I were to repeat this full experiment multiple times on this same book, I imagine I would understand everything in the book after 3-4 full cycles.

My reading comprehension is definitely better, and I can tell that my speaking and listening abilities are a little better. Perhaps if I had completely internalized this book, in the sense that ProfArguelles talks about, my ability would be even better. Perhaps this could be my next experiment...

Until then.
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27 January 2013 at 12:33am | IP Logged 
Which book were you using?
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27 January 2013 at 8:16am | IP Logged 
MichaelM204351 wrote:
Which book were you using?


The Hebrew version of Le petit Nicolas.

Very good book by the way. I recommend it to you all, and I'll definitely read it again for future language studies.
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27 January 2013 at 3:45pm | IP Logged 
I read the links you posted about goldlisting and I really think this is a system that
will work well for me. I'm going out to get my first bronze notebook today! Thanks for
the articles!


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