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Xinhua: 400m Chinese don’t speak Mandarin

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jimbo
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08 September 2013 at 1:44am | IP Logged 
BBC report

Xinhua Report

Breif news report in Mandarin

Not exactly a news flash that "not everybody in China speaks Mandarin" but thought it was interesting to see it pop up in the news.

Edited by jimbo on 08 September 2013 at 1:57am

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Chris Ford
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08 September 2013 at 6:42am | IP Logged 
Interesting, and kind of surprising to get such a large (and presumably candid) number from the Chinese government. I had always heard that the Chinese government was prone to exaggerating the percentage of the population that spoke Mandarin.
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08 September 2013 at 8:45am | IP Logged 
It's not really news most people know that Mandarin is not really a native language to most Chinese people, yet there are plenty out there who would lambast for even daring to think that.

But it is a comforting thought to know that so few in China are actually native mandarin speakers, sure they started at a much younger age than you with hour upon hour of instruction and immersion but it is still not a native language. So if so many people can do it....well you know.
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08 September 2013 at 10:44am | IP Logged 
eggcluck wrote:
It's not really news most people know that Mandarin is not really a native language to most Chinese people...
As long as by "Mandarin" you mean "Standard Mandarin" or "Beijing Mandarin". Dialects of Mandarin are spoken by the majority of the population, although I can't really judge whether or not they truly constitute a single language. It seems to be a pretty widespread opinion that the Min dialects have too little mutual intelligibility to be considered a single language, and I've heard similar opinions about the Wu dialects, but I'm not sure what the consensus is about the Mandarin dialects (excluding Dungan).
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08 September 2013 at 8:40pm | IP Logged 
Southwestern ''Mandarin'' and Putonghua are like Swedish and Standard German.

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09 September 2013 at 1:51am | IP Logged 
Westerners tend to assume since China has over 1B population and the official language is Mandarin,
therefore, everybody should be able to speak it. Throughout history there are few literate people. And
due to the country being big, travelling from 1 part to the next was difficult. Historically the only thing
the government was able to standardize was the writing system.

Now the people who do not speak fluent Mandarin are mainly the older generation who gone through
the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s and into the early '70s without a lot of education. The younger
generation who are in school or attended more recently will get some subjects taught in Mandarin so
the fluency would be higher.

Do statistics from China include the former Br. colony of Hong Kong and the Portuguese enclave of
Macau? You are adding a few millions who are Cantonese-speakers but may not be fluent in Mandarin.


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