jimbo Tetraglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6295 days ago 469 posts - 642 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin, Korean, French Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 1 of 6 08 September 2013 at 1:44am | IP Logged |
BBC report
Xinhua Report
Breif news report in Mandarin
Not exactly a news flash that "not everybody in China speaks Mandarin" but thought it was interesting to see it pop up in the news.
Edited by jimbo on 08 September 2013 at 1:57am
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Chris Ford Groupie United States Joined 4744 days ago 65 posts - 101 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Portuguese
| Message 2 of 6 08 September 2013 at 6:42am | IP Logged |
Interesting, and kind of surprising to get such a large (and presumably candid) number from the Chinese government. I had always heard that the Chinese government was prone to exaggerating the percentage of the population that spoke Mandarin.
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eggcluck Senior Member China Joined 4702 days ago 168 posts - 278 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese
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It's not really news most people know that Mandarin is not really a native language to most Chinese people, yet there are plenty out there who would lambast for even daring to think that.
But it is a comforting thought to know that so few in China are actually native mandarin speakers, sure they started at a much younger age than you with hour upon hour of instruction and immersion but it is still not a native language. So if so many people can do it....well you know.
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vonPeterhof Tetraglot Senior Member Russian FederationRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4773 days ago 715 posts - 1527 votes Speaks: Russian*, EnglishC2, Japanese, German Studies: Kazakh, Korean, Norwegian, Turkish
| Message 4 of 6 08 September 2013 at 10:44am | IP Logged |
eggcluck wrote:
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As long as by "Mandarin" you mean "Standard Mandarin" or "Beijing Mandarin". Dialects of Mandarin are spoken by the majority of the population, although I can't really judge whether or not they truly constitute a single language. It seems to be a pretty widespread opinion that the Min dialects have too little mutual intelligibility to be considered a single language, and I've heard similar opinions about the Wu dialects, but I'm not sure what the consensus is about the Mandarin dialects (excluding Dungan).
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 5 of 6 08 September 2013 at 8:40pm | IP Logged |
Southwestern ''Mandarin'' and Putonghua are like Swedish and Standard German.
Edited by Medulin on 08 September 2013 at 8:41pm
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shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4445 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French
| Message 6 of 6 09 September 2013 at 1:51am | IP Logged |
Westerners tend to assume since China has over 1B population and the official language is Mandarin,
therefore, everybody should be able to speak it. Throughout history there are few literate people. And
due to the country being big, travelling from 1 part to the next was difficult. Historically the only thing
the government was able to standardize was the writing system.
Now the people who do not speak fluent Mandarin are mainly the older generation who gone through
the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s and into the early '70s without a lot of education. The younger
generation who are in school or attended more recently will get some subjects taught in Mandarin so
the fluency would be higher.
Do statistics from China include the former Br. colony of Hong Kong and the Portuguese enclave of
Macau? You are adding a few millions who are Cantonese-speakers but may not be fluent in Mandarin.
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