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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4291 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 1 of 3 10 September 2013 at 2:44am | IP Logged | ||
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I recently learnt about using hyphenated object pronouns for the indicativo futuro
tense in Portuguese, i.e. COD: _ shall eat it (o pastel de nata): Eu comê-lo-ei Tu comê-lo-ás Ele/Ela/Vc comê-lo-á Nós comê-lo-emos Vós comê-lo-eis Eles/Elas/Vcs comê-lo-ão COI: _ will tell them Eu dir-lhes-ei Tu dir-lhes-ás Ele/Ela/Vc dir-lhes-á Nós dir-lhes-emos Vós dir-lhes-eis Eles/Elas/Vcs dir-lhes-ão To me this looks quite elegant and nice, but how often in Portugal is this form used? And with the double object form (COD/CID form)? _ shall serve it (a comida) to you (pl.) Eu servir-vos-la-ei Tu servir-vos-la-ás Ele/Ela/Vc servir-vos-la-á Nós servir-vos-la-emos Vós servir-vos-la-eis Ele/Ela/Vcs servir-vos-la-ão The double object future form looks quite long, but it looks even better than the singular object pronoun form. But I am not sure how they use it in Portugal. Edited by 1e4e6 on 10 September 2013 at 3:03am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4669 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 2 of 3 10 September 2013 at 3:11am | IP Logged | ||
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It's used mostly in formal writing in Portugal, but seldom in speech.
It's not used in Brazil because it's archaic. Nós servir-vos-la-emos (Lusitane formal writing) = Nós a serviremos a/para vocês. (Brazilian formal writing) = A gente vai servir (ela) pra vocês. (Brazilian speech). Edited by Medulin on 10 September 2013 at 3:14am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| simonov Senior Member Portugal Joined 5590 days ago 222 posts - 438 votes Speaks: English | Message 3 of 3 10 September 2013 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
[vos-a] becomes vo-la. So: servir-vo-la-emos But of course no one would ever dream of saying that, too much of a mouthful. As for writing it, that would also only be in archaic texts, I would think. Now while I'm quite willing to say: dir-to-ei (I'll tell you) in the singular, I'd never say: dir-vo-lo-ei in the plural because it sounds silly. And vo-lo direi doesn't sound much better either, except maybe when talking to children. But then I don't talk to children much, at least not in Portuguese. Edited by simonov on 10 September 2013 at 10:26am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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