ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5229 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 1 of 3 11 September 2013 at 3:20pm | IP Logged |
The tones in this exercise are said to be 4 and 2, but for the life of me it sounds like 4 and 3. Does it sound that way to a native speaker, or at least, somewhat ambiguous?
http://mandarin.about.com/library/audio/tone_exercises/4-12. mp3
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vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4679 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German
| Message 2 of 3 11 September 2013 at 4:09pm | IP Logged |
Well, I would say it is a very low 2nd tone, and usually the 3rd tone is realised as "a low tone", so it's a bit confusing, indeed.
However, strictly technically speaking, here's the pitch contour of the sound file:
We can see very clearly the 4th tone, but the 2nd tone is a very very gentle rise.
edit: The initial drop in the second syllable is just because the consonant is perceived as having a high pitch (normal as it is an affricate), it's not actually a vowel pitch drop.
Edited by vermillon on 11 September 2013 at 4:11pm
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ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5229 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French
| Message 3 of 3 11 September 2013 at 4:15pm | IP Logged |
Vermillon, thanks! That's immensely helpful.
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