Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6769 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 9 of 29 06 June 2006 at 11:58pm | IP Logged |
Just to nitpick, Chung, English also retains the genitive — and for all
nouns, not just pronouns. :)
Macedonian sounds like fun; one of those languages like Icelandic that a
language enthusiast might want to learn because it's useful but few
people know it. Plus, it looks like you get Bulgarian for 75% off with your
purchase of Macedonian. :)
Amazon turns up a handful of books for Macedonian, but the pickings are
a little slim. I'm sure there's enough, though, to master the basics before
immersing yourself in the country itself.
Since you appear to know some French, you might also be able to make
use of "Grammaire pratique du macédonien", which I just found at
Amazon.fr. It includes a cassette.
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sigiloso Heptaglot Groupie Portugal Joined 6780 days ago 87 posts - 103 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, PortugueseC1, Galician, French, Esperanto, Italian Studies: Russian, Greek
| Message 10 of 29 07 June 2006 at 5:22am | IP Logged |
I learned from old threads here that Macedonian is just another standard for the Bulgarian language (Ardamschair dixit). If that is true, maybe materials for Bulgarian could be used just as well, and then learn what the non-structural differences are.
Another interesting comparison would be with the other arguable pseudodifferent Croatian and Serbian, leading to the more general topic of whether political factors can really split a language into two in a short time or not, not to mention the headaching language/dialect debate.
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Captain Haddock Diglot Senior Member Japan kanjicabinet.tumblr. Joined 6769 days ago 2282 posts - 2814 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, Korean, Ancient Greek
| Message 11 of 29 07 June 2006 at 6:22am | IP Logged |
You could be right, Sigiloso, they're closer than I realized. I found a few links
which claim Macedonian is just Bulgarian but with a Cyrillic alphabet closer
to Serbian (while the Bulgarian alphabet is more like that of Russian).
http://www.macedoniainfo.com/books/kronsteiner/ik_3_eng.html
http://www.ucc.ie/staff/jprodr/macedonia/macmodlan.html
However, it's a source of national pride for Macedonians to claim their
language as separate.
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sayariza Triglot Groupie Indonesia Joined 6764 days ago 42 posts - 54 votes Speaks: Malay, Indonesian*, DutchC1 Studies: EnglishC2
| Message 12 of 29 07 June 2006 at 8:52am | IP Logged |
Does Macedonian in Republic of Macedonia have same language with Macedonian in Greece's Macedonia?
because I have a friend, she said she is a macedonian but she is greece too..
Edited by sayariza on 07 June 2006 at 8:52am
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brumblebee Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6776 days ago 206 posts - 212 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese
| Message 13 of 29 07 June 2006 at 1:20pm | IP Logged |
There are a few self-study resources from Eurotalk. I was searching language advantages' web site when I found this page:
www.languageadvantage.com/market/eurotalkbeginner.htm
I don't know if the product is very good though.
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Frisco Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6857 days ago 380 posts - 398 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Italian, Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 14 of 29 08 June 2006 at 2:04am | IP Logged |
sayariza wrote:
Does Macedonian in Republic of Macedonia have same language with Macedonian in Greece's Macedonia?
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I believe Greek Macedonians (I'm saying this assuming there is actually still a province in Greece called "Macedonia") speak Greek. There was a conflict over the name Macedonia in which Greece didn't want that nation (the Republic of Macedonia) to name itself "Macedonia" because of Greek cultural heritage or something like that, but the linguistic lines are pretty clear-cut to my knowledge.
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mistael Groupie United States Joined 6824 days ago 48 posts - 51 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Russian
| Message 15 of 29 08 June 2006 at 2:44pm | IP Logged |
Here is an interesting essay about Macedonian being phonetic
http://www.foolswisdom.com/~sbett/preprint2-jsss.htm
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joe Diglot Newbie Greece Joined 6775 days ago 17 posts - 18 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC2 Studies: GermanB1
| Message 16 of 29 09 June 2006 at 1:26pm | IP Logged |
I am a Greek living in the greek province of Macedonia.
I do not want to comment on any of the points about the country that we greeks keep on calling FYROM (Former Yugoslavian Republic Of Macedonia)
I just want to bring to your attention that you are talking about a subject that has created a lot of "forum wars". I do not want to see it happening in this site.
If anybody is interested in the subject there are a lot of places for that in the internet.
I have tried to form this post as mildly as i can.
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