brumblebee Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6774 days ago 206 posts - 212 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Portuguese
| Message 1 of 8 25 June 2006 at 12:36am | IP Logged |
Does anyone know of any good resources for Breton and Manx? I think it would be cool to learn a revived language (Manx).
brumblebee :)
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6908 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 2 of 8 25 June 2006 at 1:43am | IP Logged |
I just checked Omniglot and found a quite good list of resources for Breton and Manx.
In addition to that, I know there's Assimil Breton and a grammar book I bought from Ebay some weeks ago, "Breton grammar" (Michael Everson).
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 3 of 8 09 September 2013 at 12:13pm | IP Logged |
I'm looking into this on behalf of someone else. The above information is very useful.
Can anyone offer any more recent information?
Thanks.
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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4706 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 4 of 8 09 September 2013 at 12:18pm | IP Logged |
Yes, but most resources for Breton assume you speak French. I personally own Le Breton
(by Divi Kervella, 2005), uses the KLT orthography. This is for Francophone speakers.
There exists a book in the Colloquial series called Colloquial Breton, but I have never
used it so cannot give any information.
When it comes to grammar, the grammar I use is "Petit grammaire du breton moderne" by
Y. Desbordes.
I also use an online Breton-Dutch (!!!) dictionary. Lexilogos offers French-Breton and
Breton-French I think.
Then there are other people here like vermillon, Maïwenn, or eyðimörk who should be
able to give you more details.
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4827 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 5 of 8 09 September 2013 at 6:24pm | IP Logged |
Thanks Tarvos. Will pass it on. Not sure if she speaks French, but it's likely.
She has started with Colloquial, so maybe I'll get some feedback on it.
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Maïwenn Diglot Groupie FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4368 days ago 56 posts - 72 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: German, Mandarin, Breton
| Message 6 of 8 25 September 2013 at 5:08pm | IP Logged |
If she speaks English but not French, kervarker has (most of) Ni a gomz brezhoneg online in English (and French) for free:
http://www.kervarker.org/en/lessons_01_toc.html
If she does speak French, I definitely recommend the Assimil and I've heard good things about the Oulpan
series, though I believe that they're more for classroom use.
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5555 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 7 of 8 26 September 2013 at 6:41am | IP Logged |
The Omniglot link posted above by Jeff is an excellent source for Manx links. Learning Manx, in particular, offers lots of audio and accompanying text to get started in the language, with structured lessons for those at beginner, intermediate, and advanced levels. There's also a short story called "Dunveryssyn yn Tooder-Folley" (The Vampire Murders) by Brian Stowell, which is broken down into sections with comprehensive notes for intensive listening and reading.
Here are some more links to success stories in the ongoing revival and growth of the Manx language (and a chance to see some videos in Manx too):
Bunscoill Ghaelgagh - a short documentary about a primary school in St John's on the Isle of Man, where children have been taught solely through the medium of the Manx language since 2011.
Daniel ayns ooig ny lionyn - a sample taken from "Friends and Heroes", a BBC TV series of children's animated bible stories which has recently been dubbed into Manx.
Five short episodes from another BBC animated series dubbed again into Manx, chronicling the life of the Irish mythological hero Cú Chulainn:
Cuchulainn Ep. 1
Cuchulainn Ep. 2
Cuchulainn Ep. 3
Cuchulainn Ep. 4
Cuchulainn Ep. 5
(...not only do these come with accompanying transcripts in the Manx language, but there are also the original Irish and English versions of them floating out there somewhere for comparison/translation)!
And here's one more interesting link before I sign off...news just in of a new film in Manx that just came out on 14th September called Solace. :D
Edited by Teango on 26 September 2013 at 8:06am
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akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5407 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 8 of 8 26 September 2013 at 8:51am | IP Logged |
Here's a few tips for Breton :
There's the old Assimil by F. Morvannou, it is one of the few methods everybody seem to recognize as a good one. You can find it easily (with the recordings) on the internet. There are three volumes (Initiation/vol. 1/vol. 2). Volume 1 starts from scratch but the Initiation is a really good introduction, has a gentle learning curve and makes things far much easier afterwards.
I have also heard good reviews about the Méthode Tricoire.
You may also want to check the Emgleo Breiz e-mail courses. You have to buy the books (don't know which ones, maybe Tricoire ?) but then pay only 8 euros/year and can send all your exercises/questions to the teacher. I have heard really good comments about the teacher and the quality of his work.
Edited by akkadboy on 26 September 2013 at 8:58am
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