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What causes the trouble with American W? | ||
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| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 9 of 18 27 July 2013 at 7:27pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Then why did you previously say they pronounce English V like a W? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 10 of 18 27 July 2013 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Because they do. It's called hyper-correction. Normally, a Swede would pronounce an English W like a V. Then he notices that's wrong, and instead he pronounces everything like W even words that require V. Germans tend to do the same thing, they simply can't distinguish the two different phonemes. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4254 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian | Message 11 of 18 27 July 2013 at 8:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Exactly the same phenomenon exists among Finns. Finnish doesn't know the "w" sound, only "v" but many people when pronouncing English pronounce it all as "w", probably because they think "that's the way we say it, so it can't be right".
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| calduche Bilingual Tetraglot Newbie Austria Joined 5117 days ago 9 posts - 16 votes Speaks: French*, English*, GermanC2, Dutch Studies: Portuguese, Swahili | Message 12 of 18 28 July 2013 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
People in Austria tend to overdo it as well, and end up pronouncing words as "witamin" or "wictim". I even saw an announcement for "wampire diaries" on (german) television. I've had some "let's learn to pronounce the English v properly" workshops with some friends around the kitchen table, and it's fascinating to see how much they struggle to say "very" but have no problem pronouncing "Weg" or "Wetter" 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 13 of 18 28 July 2013 at 4:19pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Can Swedish people distinguish the two phonemes? It sounds like you're saying Swedes pronounce them both as W as a hyper correction but Germans still pronounce them as V because they can't hear the difference. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 14 of 18 28 July 2013 at 4:21pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That seems so weird to me. German already has a V sound so why couldn't they say "very?" Also, what is "weg"? Is that an English word? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| anime Triglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 6361 days ago 161 posts - 207 votes Speaks: Spanish, Swedish*, English Studies: German, Portuguese, French, Russian | Message 15 of 18 28 July 2013 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Weg is a German word. Swedish people can in fact distinguish the two phonemes but people that I would
generally consider untalanted with languages oftentimes pronounce English Vs as Ws instead because they're too stupid to realize there's a difference. There, I said it:-P Edited by anime on 28 July 2013 at 4:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 16 of 18 28 July 2013 at 4:56pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That's not what I said. Please read other pepole's posts more carefully. It gets tiresome to explain things again and again. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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