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albysky
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29 July 2013 at 1:47pm | IP Logged 
Do you think that russian is hard to pronounce for Italians ? Do you think that acquring a relatively wide
vocabulary in russian for Italians is harder than in German . I have learnt English and German , as for
german I really had to struggle to widen my vocabulary to a point where I can understand documentaries
on youtube without to many problems .

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Cabaire
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29 July 2013 at 2:33pm | IP Logged 
To say the truth, yes, it will be definetely harder, especially the vocabulary. You will have to learn practically all words from scratch.
We had already a discussion of that theme, and i think, the percentages of words you will recognise are around 5%.
The dicciculty in pronunciation will be the distinction between hard and soft consonants.
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Henkkles
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29 July 2013 at 3:18pm | IP Logged 
Pronouncing foreign languages is less a matter of what your native language is, rather than your ability to mimic and listen to the sounds you hear. I would still say that the pronunciation of Russian is not easy for an Italian speaker; in Russian there are very often consonant clusters, much unlike in Italian. In the beginning some words really got my tongue in a knot, but you'll get used to them.

As for the vocabulary, I believe it is harder at least in the beginning. I think English, German and Italian share more word roots with each other than Russian does with any of them. However, once you learn how to construct words from roots in Russian I believe it's going to become a lot easier to guess and learn new words, and these rules are more regular than in English, but I can't speak for German or Italian.

Also I have to point out that you should never put a spacebar before a punctuation mark. In your post you have pressed spacebar before each punctuation mark, and this is always wrong.

That was a lot of italics.

Edited by Henkkles on 29 July 2013 at 3:19pm

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Wilco
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29 July 2013 at 4:32pm | IP Logged 
When I studied in Moscow, our university had more than a few Italian students and I
dare to say that their pronunciation (while not perfect) was entirely understandable
and never caused them major communication problems.

And let me add this : acquiring vocabulary in Russian is definitely not as hard as it
seems. Once you reach an intermediary level, I highly recommend using the book Roots
of the Russian Language: An Elementary Guide to Wordbuilding
(see link below) or a
similar book. As an Italian speaker, you already know 100% of the Latin roots and
probably most of the Greek roots used in Russian, just learn the Slavic roots and,
believe me, you will be fine !


http://www.amazon.com/Roots-Russian-Language-Elementary-
Wordbuilding/dp/0844242675

Edited by Wilco on 29 July 2013 at 4:33pm

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Марк
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30 July 2013 at 11:22am | IP Logged 
Russian is hard to pronounce for most people. It has a very specific phonology.
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QiuJP
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30 July 2013 at 2:17pm | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
Russian is hard to pronounce for most people. It has a very specific phonology.


And it will be an achievement if a non-native speaker can perfect their speech.
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ericblair
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31 July 2013 at 9:19am | IP Logged 
Марк wrote:
Russian is hard to pronounce for most people. It has a very specific
phonology.


I will say, though, that just about every Russian speaker I met (from Russia or Ukraine)
was very kind and patient with me when speaking Russian with them. There is definitely
something to be said for positive reinforcement.


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