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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6919 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 33 of 39 03 October 2007 at 3:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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Although LingQ counts different forms of a word as well as any phrase you wish to save, it's probably better than the random method. I use the LingQ tool to save words and phrases for two languages, and will probably continue using it for more languages, depending on what they add.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6282 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 34 of 39 06 October 2007 at 10:59am | IP Logged | ||
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It's a rough and ready method but I tested my German and Russian vocabulary using pocket dictionaries. German, my best foreign language, came out at 6,675. Russian was 5,542, closer to my German level than I expected. I have done a lot of work on my Russian vocabulary recently and have started reading novels in Russian again, so that might explain the Russian level. I might test my other languages the same way.
I get 4,248 for Turkish. I use conversational Turkish a lot at the moment. I scored 18,400 on the Lemma test (Advanced) and 40/40 on Context 1 and Context 8 (I didn't bother with the others). I think we can safely conclude that English is my native language. I got 1,055 for Polish, a language I know at a basic level. The dictionary test does give a rough guide to your level of attainment in a language, it seems to me. Edited by William Camden on 07 October 2007 at 7:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| asad100101 Diglot Senior Member Pakistan languagel.blogspot.c Joined 6465 days ago 118 posts - 137 votes Speaks: Hindi*, English | Message 35 of 39 20 November 2007 at 2:33pm | IP Logged | ||
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12080, is a level I got after taking an advanced test.
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 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6713 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 36 of 39 20 November 2007 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | ||
A 50 page dictionary is far too small to be useful for checking your vocabulary, so the relevant question would be: is 10 pages from a 400 page* dictionary enough? And no, it is not enough. If you happen to choose a page with a long tale about a common verb with 152 examples then your word count will be low; on the other hand you might chance upon a page with mostly loanwords that you also know from your native language - then it will get an undeserved boost. However if you use the word counts as I have proposed: as a periodical control of your progress in vocabulary building, then you will not only accumulate much more than 10 pages, but you will also be able to see the general tendency through all the random deviations. * (or even better: from a 1000 page dictionary, - otherwise it will soon get too small as your vocabulary expand) Edited by Iversen on 21 November 2007 at 4:02am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zenmonkey Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6562 days ago 803 posts - 1119 votes 1 sounds Speaks: EnglishC2*, Spanish*, French, German Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew | Message 37 of 39 20 November 2007 at 6:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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ok 18430 on the on-line Lemma test, rushing through it. Will eventually try the dictionary test in my other languages... but rather spend that time studying ;)
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| Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6713 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 38 of 39 21 November 2007 at 4:17am | IP Logged | ||
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Making word counts is not totally wasted time studywise. When I decided to relearn my old forgotten languages (after a 25 year long period of utter neglect) my first thought was of course to get some textbooks, preferable the same that I had used when I learnt those languages in the first place. When I read about word counts in an old thread here I decided to do one for Romanian. I got around 1000 words the first time, but soon after I had already reached 5000, and then 8000. My conclusion was that working with passive words started a process that brought the language back much faster than if I had concentrated on totally new words, - in fact it brought back words that I had not even worked on. So of course I immediately applied the method to my other rusty languages.
However that strategy broke down when I started to learn a totally new language (Modern Greek), so then I had to develop some more sofisticated methods for the use of word lists based on unknown words. But this doesn't change the fact that the simple act of writing down a lot of passive words from a dictionary gave amazingly good results with my half-forgotten languages. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Monox D. I-Fly Senior Member Indonesia monoxdifly.iopc.us Joined 5145 days ago 762 posts - 664 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 39 of 39 02 October 2016 at 4:38pm | IP Logged | ||
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For word count, I prefer BliuBliu.
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