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| Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5404 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes  Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 17 of 44 28 April 2010 at 12:24am | IP Logged | ||||||||
You really can't force yourself to call it Macedonian can you?! :-P 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| 1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5374 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian | Message 18 of 44 28 April 2010 at 7:35am | IP Logged | ||||||||
For me Macedonian refers to ancient Macedonian which has nothing to do with Makedonski,a slavic language.It also refers to a dialect of modern greek as it is spoken in the greek province of Macedonia.Calling this slavic language Macedonian causes a lot of confusion and it seems that all the above mentioned (ancient Macedonian,Macedonian variant of Greek,slavic modern Macedonian) are one and the same.Which they aren't. As you may know,this is a highly political and a very touchy issue in Greece.Neveltheless, the Makedonskis themselves call their language Makedonski.So what would be more natural than calling it Makedonski in English,too?Just to avoid this confusion with the names.And by the way no one calls this language Makedonski in Greece.The term 'skopiana' is generally used. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Delodephius Bilingual Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 5404 days ago 342 posts - 501 votes Speaks: Slovak*, Serbo-Croatian*, EnglishC1, Czech Studies: Russian, Japanese | Message 19 of 44 28 April 2010 at 10:15am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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In whole of the world people call it Macedonian. In all the Slavic languages the language is called Macedonian. When you say Macedonian no one thinks of anything to do with Greece or Greeks. Calling it Makedonski outside of quoting the Macedonian language is an insult to the language and its people, because in English that language is called Macedonian. To me there is never confusion: Ancient Macedonian (an unknown ancient language), Macedonian Greek (dialect of the Greeks who settled in Macedonia in the last few centuries) and Macedonian (the language of the ethnic Macedonian people). No confusion.
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| 1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5374 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian | Message 20 of 44 28 April 2010 at 10:43am | IP Logged | ||||||||
What an argument!It's like saying that calling the English language 'English' in a foreign language would be and insult to the English language and its people. Well,to make a long story short,you and the rest of the whole world can call it macedonian.I choose to call it makedonski. Edited by 1qaz2wsx on 28 April 2010 at 12:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| 1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5374 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian | Message 21 of 44 28 April 2010 at 9:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
In russian,bulgarian,serbian and all the other slavic languages, this language is called macedonian???It's called makedonski in all slavic languages and obviously you do not make any sense at all. Edited by 1qaz2wsx on 28 April 2010 at 9:48pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Gusutafu Senior Member Sweden Joined 5522 days ago 655 posts - 1039 votes Speaks: Swedish* | Message 22 of 44 29 April 2010 at 10:44am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, do you call English "English" in French just because the English themselves call it that? Of course not, you say "anglais", if you say "parlez-vous English" people will think you're mad. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| 1qaz2wsx Diglot Groupie Greece Joined 5374 days ago 98 posts - 124 votes Speaks: Greek*, EnglishC1 Studies: Russian, Albanian | Message 23 of 44 29 April 2010 at 11:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Still,that does not mean this would be an insult to the English language and its people. Edited by 1qaz2wsx on 29 April 2010 at 12:21pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Ayazid Newbie Czech Republic Joined 5578 days ago 14 posts - 33 votes Speaks: Czech* | Message 24 of 44 29 April 2010 at 2:20pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Could somebody be so kind as to explain to me what has the name of Macedonian to do with the topic of this thread (Ukrainian vs Russian)??
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