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| Globox Diglot Newbie Netherlands Joined 6028 days ago 7 posts - 7 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC1 Studies: German, Spanish, French | Message 73 of 125 25 May 2008 at 6:18am | IP Logged | ||
...which isn't a dialect but a language from which the dialects American English and Australian derived. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| CrazyManAndy Groupie United States myspace.com/bobandbiRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6115 days ago 51 posts - 50 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 74 of 125 25 May 2008 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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It still is a dialect, with it's own sub-dialects.
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| ChristopherB Triglot Senior Member New Zealand Joined 6316 days ago 851 posts - 1074 votes  2 sounds Speaks: English*, German, French | Message 75 of 125 26 May 2008 at 5:08am | IP Logged | ||
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British, American and Australian English are all dialects of English.
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| Erubey Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6230 days ago 82 posts - 92 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, Japanese Studies: Mandarin | Message 76 of 125 03 June 2008 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | ||
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Some of these rules or whatnot, seem ridiculous. American people can't sound british at will, or the other way around, but you wouldn't call them non fluent in English. Same with other languages. Being able to do that is beyond being a polyglot.
Anyways, I put more stress on reading and writing skills. I know plenty of people who know Spanish/english but can't write in Spanish to save their life, so I wouldn't even call them bilingual. As for accents, I don't really have the ideal of native sounding accent, that does not mean of course that bad speaking is fine, but I like foreign accents. These questions are hard because you can always find things that people can't do. "Should be able to read everything". Well some people can't read about physics in any language, some people are just more well read than others, some people just stink at spelling, etc. It's a relativity trap, which to be honest I don't like, but its the truth. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| djb Newbie United States Joined 6003 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean | Message 77 of 125 21 June 2008 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | ||
I agree. I used to work with some English guys, and we would try to copy each other's accents with hilariously awful results. And even a professionally trained actor's attempt to mimic a different dialect can sound pretty bad, sometimes. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6372 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English* | Message 78 of 125 21 June 2008 at 10:36pm | IP Logged | ||
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Poly means many and to me three languages is not 'many'. Lots of people speak 3 languages. A lot of people are bilingual and speak a second language, and lots of people in Africa speak 3 or more languages. To me 'many' languages is 4. Since 3 to me is trilingual.
Each language should be very fluent, good accent, and perfectly understandable pronunciation. Rare errors in idiomatic expression are OK but need to be minimized. Grammar should be around 95-99% accurate. Broad vocabulary as well as deep, approximately 15,000 to 20,000+ lexical items. That's me. But if you speak 10 languages with a vocab of around 6000, good grammar, easily understood, decent accent. I think that's pretty cool too. But I'd rather get really good in each language. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| obara Newbie India subramanian-obula.blRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5966 days ago 21 posts - 22 votes Studies: Gujarati | Message 79 of 125 16 August 2008 at 11:24am | IP Logged | ||
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One who is able to communicate with the native speaker without putting the native speaker with the difficulty of deciphering, able to read the literature and appreciates its style may be considered as a fair polyglot if he has acquired his skill in more than three languages. Monolingual, bilingual, trilingual and more than three we can term as a polyglot.For an average human being, mastering four languages of course, other than his mother tongue is a difficult task. Code switching is important.He should be able to speak one after another simultaneously not after a gap.The ability of the person and the opportunity to practice what one has learnt determines the number of language one can acquire. The degree of his competency in the languages acquired determines one as Excellent, best, better and good polyglot.
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| sajro Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5996 days ago 129 posts - 131 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 80 of 125 17 August 2008 at 11:58am | IP Logged | ||
That's a good way to look at it. My friend was complaining that he only understood half of this video in German,until I reminded him I (and the majority of Americans) couldn't understand even that much. I myself can be slightly mean, though. Whenever I feel bad about my Spanish, I try to chat with someone at school in my Spanish class. I always feel better after saying something that is correct that they can't understand. It's a feeling of "These people have been learning for the same amount of time, but I know it better!" Edited by sajro on 17 August 2008 at 12:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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