justberta Diglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5613 days ago 140 posts - 170 votes Speaks: English, Norwegian* Studies: Indonesian, German, Spanish, Russian
| Message 9 of 19 09 September 2010 at 11:00pm | IP Logged |
Russian for Dummies isn't comprehensive enough and doesn't use the Cyrillic Alphabet. I
have it but ordered another book instead (Penguin).
Pimsleur is good, I use a transcript I found at masterrussian.net which uses English AND
Cyrillic letters. I also write down the text in my notebook. A good way to memorize the
alphabet.
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SeanOB Newbie Ireland Joined 5428 days ago 4 posts - 9 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 10 of 19 13 January 2011 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
Lakkhamu wrote:
I learned that my father has the complete edition of Pimsleur Russian. They say it's pretty good, but I'm skeptical about full audio files, as it may impede my ability to read and write in Cyrillic. Is that so? And are there PDF files of the audio so that I can also follow it from there? |
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Maybe it's too late now, but transcriptions of the three Pimsleur levels are available here: http://masterrussian.net/f21/
Seán
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polyglHot Pentaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5094 days ago 173 posts - 229 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, German, Spanish, Indonesian Studies: Russian
| Message 11 of 19 13 January 2011 at 10:15pm | IP Logged |
It is now 4 months since my post as "Justberta" I must say I didn't use Pimsleur much, I
just did a few lessons and gave up. (Not on Russian, just that method.)
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5362 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 12 of 19 13 January 2011 at 11:17pm | IP Logged |
Do the rest of you have a different "Russian for Dummies" than I have? Because mine uses the Cyrillic script for most of what is written in Russian. Oh.Of course. I'm being an idiot. I have the French version. Different sort of dummies :)
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jdmoncada Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 5062 days ago 470 posts - 741 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Finnish Studies: Russian, Japanese
| Message 13 of 19 20 February 2011 at 5:27am | IP Logged |
I avoided a lot of the Russian books because they did not have Cyrillic. Because I know how to read it, I would rather have the real thing. (Now Japanese, I'm content to use Romaji for now...)
Anyhow, a book I found to remind myself of beginner skills is the Berlitz Essential Russian. It has a good CD with native speakers, and it does have the script and some information on writing. It's a solid resource, in my opinion, and I am glad to have it. I do wonder, however, how well it could be used by a complete beginner as opposed to myself who is refreshing old knowledge.
Edited by jdmoncada on 20 February 2011 at 5:32am
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Dreadslinger Newbie United States Joined 4921 days ago 18 posts - 30 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 14 of 19 03 July 2011 at 7:36am | IP Logged |
To be honest, I'm very new to Russian. I only really started studying it about six months ago and, due to time constraints (I'm a single father looking for employment), unfortunately I can only study infrequently at best.
However, I've been having considerable success with a combination of "The New Penguin Russian Course" by Nicholas J. Brown, and the website www.learningrussian.net . The former has examples of both printed and handwritten Cyrillic and a lesson structure that definitely appeals to my personal learning style.
As far as the website is concerned, there are numerous recorded examples of greetings, conversations, etc. which have helped my pronunciation tremendously, despite having zero native Russian speakers with whom to converse. It is, of course, no substitute for immersion study, but it is definitely helping me build a solid foundation for my future studies.
Hope this helps! :)
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5084 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 15 of 19 03 July 2011 at 8:30am | IP Logged |
jdmoncada wrote:
I avoided a lot of the Russian books because they did not have
Cyrillic. |
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That's terrible. Imagine an English book without Latin alphabet (written in Cyrillic, for
example).
Another terrible thing is that many Russian books teach to pronounce soft consonants
as hard + y. So пя becomes pya as well as пья. пья (much rarer combination of letters) is
pronounced as pya, but пя is not.
Edited by Марк on 03 July 2011 at 8:32am
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5years Diglot Newbie Tokelau Joined 4764 days ago 7 posts - 16 votes Speaks: English, Portuguese* Studies: Italian
| Message 16 of 19 10 December 2011 at 7:15am | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
jdmoncada wrote:
I avoided a lot of the Russian books because they did not have
Cyrillic. |
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That's terrible. Imagine an English book without Latin alphabet (written in Cyrillic, for
example).
Another terrible thing is that many Russian books teach to pronounce soft consonants
as hard + y. So пя becomes pya as well as пья. пья (much rarer combination of letters) is
pronounced as pya, but пя is not. |
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Do you know of any books/courses that don't do this? I have been using the Princeton Russian Course (+ random resources and podcasts I find online), and I'm worried that I might be learning it the wrong way without noticing. Thanks!
P.S.: I find it really strange that the Russian for Dummies book in French is different from the English version! I wonder why that is, that's bizarre. Or maybe it's just a more recent or older version? The one I had access to one or two years ago is in English and I agree with everyone else - I'd stay away from it if you want something more in-depth.
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