Madman6510 Newbie United States Joined 5239 days ago 11 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 1 of 16 01 August 2010 at 6:16am | IP Logged |
I'm interested in learning Japanese, but I'm having difficulty finding good material to
start with. Or, to put it another way, I know I want to start learning, but have no idea
how to get started.
I'm learning the kana now, but eventually I'm going to want to start working on
vocabulary and grammar, and eventually learn the important kanji.
So can anyone recommend any good learning material that I can get either online, or has a
good chance of being at the library?
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Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5357 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French
| Message 2 of 16 01 August 2010 at 2:39pm | IP Logged |
Welcome to the forum, Madman6510!
I don’t study Japanese so I don’t know what good resources are out there, but I know you can find a free 100-lesson course on the website of NHK (the Japanese national broadcaster).
http://www.nhk.or.jp/lesson/english/learn/story/index.html
From the website you can download a pdf textbook (with both kana and romaji as well as the English translation) and the mp3 audio files for each lesson. As I said, I can’t vouch for the quality of this course, but it may be something to start with until you find better materials, or someone more experienced can direct you towards them.
Good luck with your Japanese learning.
PS. Take out the blanks (if any) in the link above for it to work.
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Akalabeth Groupie Canada Joined 5529 days ago 83 posts - 112 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese
| Message 3 of 16 01 August 2010 at 4:10pm | IP Logged |
http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar is a good site for grammar. Also, if you go
to smart.fm there is the Core 2000 and Core 6000 series, which you can use to learn a lot
of vocab.
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Madman6510 Newbie United States Joined 5239 days ago 11 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 4 of 16 02 August 2010 at 5:50am | IP Logged |
I like the smart.fm site. Actually looks like a commercial program that someone would
buy... and learn well from.
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Samuelovich-kun Newbie United States Joined 5304 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Studies: Russian
| Message 5 of 16 04 August 2010 at 4:53am | IP Logged |
Whoa all the info you guys have provided has helped me alot too! Thanks!
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Dragonsheep Groupie United States Joined 5280 days ago 46 posts - 63 votes Studies: Tagalog, English* Studies: Japanese, Latin
| Message 6 of 16 04 August 2010 at 7:33am | IP Logged |
When you do get started and are willing, don't be afraid to start (wisely) spending money. Realize what a monolithic and long-term project you are undertaking, and 100 well spent dollars on learning materils could shorten the time needed to learn the language by years. (I don't think learning any language at all is possible with 50ish well spent dollars.)
But, if you're still unsure, by all means freebe it. I'm still trying to freebe the second level of Assimil with the first (although I'll probably give in eventually.)''
On a side note, any tips to freebeing Assimil?
Oh, and welcome to the forum! I have no doubt this is the best general language forums on the internet. You're going to like it here.
Edited by Dragonsheep on 04 August 2010 at 7:35am
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Madman6510 Newbie United States Joined 5239 days ago 11 posts - 13 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 7 of 16 04 August 2010 at 7:43am | IP Logged |
Well, I just ran into a quick 80 dollars or so, so I might spend a little on materials.
Do you have any recommendations on what to pick up?
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Lexii Senior Member United States Joined 5232 days ago 162 posts - 194 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 8 of 16 08 August 2010 at 7:40pm | IP Logged |
I have been using a website called Read the Kanji (readthekanji.com, not to be confused with the very popular Review the Kanji) which has helped me tremendously with kanji/vocabulary recognition. Readthekanji is a flashcard-style vocabulary site. It is broken up into the (old) 4 JLPT levels. They haven't updated the level system yet to reflect the new 5-tier leveling but, for me, that's not a problem. The words are the same, it's just the categorizing that's out-dated.
Readthekanji shows you a vocabulary word and you must type in its pronunciation. For example, it might show you 日曜日 (Sunday). You are expected to type "nichiyoubi" in the answer box. You type in romaji (English letters/syllables) but the program will automatically convert it to the kana equivalent of what you typed. In the case I just used, I would see "にちようび" displayed in my answer box. This has the added benefit of reinforcing your kana.
You control how much information you see about the vocabulary word. You can choose to see JUST the word itself, or any combination of the word and it's meaning, an example sentence in English and an example sentence in Japanese (all kanji/kana, no romaji). You can choose those options on a universal or an as-needed basis. It's very flexible. For me, I choose to see the word all by itself with no hints. Very challenging!
One of the best features of Read the Kanji is that it utilizes spaced repetition and keeps track of your progress. The words you get right will show up with less and less frequency. The ones you get wrong will show up more often. You can determine the frequency with which new words are introduced to you. After 2 months of daily practice, my "correct" ratio for 525 4th-level words is just about 75%.
Just like these forums, Read the Kanji is free... to an extent. You may study the 4th-level words (and all the kana) free of charge for as long as you like. However, if you want to get the 3rd-, 2nd- and 1st-level words, you'll need to pay. Even then, the fee is extraordinarily reasonable -- the best rate is $20 for a year's access.
My only wish-list item for Read the Kanji would be to add audio. It would be wonderful to reinforce my listening/speaking skills! Heck, I'd even pay triple the fee for that feature!
Please note. I am in no way connected with Read the Kanji, financially or any other way. I gain absolutely nothing if you use it. I'm just a very satisfied customer and recommend the site highly. I hope this information is useful to you.
Edited by Lexii on 08 August 2010 at 7:42pm
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