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Andy E
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 Message 9 of 36
18 September 2010 at 7:09pm | IP Logged 
justberta wrote:
For someone who only speaks one language you should focus on
one right now,


The case for the defence:

Monte_Cristo wrote:
As much as I would like to learn all these languages simultaneously, I'm proceeding one at a time.



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Monte_Cristo
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 Message 10 of 36
18 September 2010 at 7:54pm | IP Logged 
justberta wrote:
I guess the ultimate German book would be Nietzsche...

Wow, you are very ambitious. For someone who only speaks one language you should focus
on
one right now, and stop telling us of this extensive 10 year plan. As for Italian
taking
under one year to study I don't think this is correct. Lower your limits, just focus on
one, Spanish, French or German are all good choices.


Yikes, didn't mean to upset anyone. I am only working on one language right now,
Spanish. I am a planner, so I like to have everything set out in order before I begin
a project. I really only wrote out the entire plan in my introduction because I'm so
excited about it, and so people could tell me if it was glaringly unrealistic...and I
think I just got one vote in that direction. So, do you think it is unlikely for
someone who only knows one language to learn 5 additional ones, or do you just think it
will take a lot longer than 10 years?

Edited by Monte_Cristo on 18 September 2010 at 7:59pm

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justberta
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 Message 11 of 36
18 September 2010 at 8:43pm | IP Logged 
What I mean is, how can you plan out your language career at this point?
Your plan should be learning Spanish. After a few years/somewhat of a fluency in this
language you can slowly start another one.

The first foreign language you learn should be studied for a longer period of time
because you aren't accustomed to the process, don't have study habits or skills
specific to languages yet. After a few years you will have practical knowledge of
linguistics and it will become relatively easier to start new languages. All though
this would be after at least 10 years and maybe you would only get 3 to 5 languages out
of it...

Set yourself realistic goals, it's ok to dream but... You cannot simply become a
polyglot overnight, this requires a lifetime of drive, instinct, study, immersion,
interest and gift.
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Monte_Cristo
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 Message 12 of 36
18 September 2010 at 8:46pm | IP Logged 
justberta wrote:
What I mean is, how can you plan out your language career at this
point?
Your plan should be learning Spanish. After a few years/somewhat of a fluency in this
language you can slowly start another one.

The first foreign language you learn should be studied for a longer period of time
because you aren't accustomed to the process, don't have study habits or skills
specific to languages yet. After a few years you will have practical knowledge of
linguistics and it will become relatively easier to start new languages. All though
this would be after at least 10 years and maybe you would only get 3 to 5 languages out
of it...

Set yourself realistic goals, it's ok to dream but... You cannot simply become a
polyglot overnight, this requires a lifetime of drive, instinct, study, immersion,
interest and gift.


Now I understand, thanks. I do get ahead of myself sometimes. :)
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Monte_Cristo
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 Message 13 of 36
21 September 2010 at 6:32pm | IP Logged 
Over the last couple of days I finished up FSI unit 4 and moved on to Unit 5. I'm sort of struggling to figure out exactly how to use FSI. I think it may do me more good to go through level 1 quickly, then repeat it more slowly and deliberately. I'm still adding 25 new Anki cards each day, which is about 12 words as I do both English-Spanish, and Spanish-English. For some reason I just can't get tal vez to stick in my head. If I don't review it every day I can't remember it. I think it may be because the two Spanish words only equal one English.

I've also started doing L-R with El Principito. I plan to continue L-R with the Harry Potter series. I already have the English versions, and I was able to find the Spanish paperbacks for $7-$8. I was also very excited to find the audiobooks online for free. So I'll be able to have the whole series for L-R for less than $60. :)
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Monte_Cristo
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 Message 14 of 36
27 September 2010 at 9:21pm | IP Logged 
I didn't do too well this past week. I've started doing 1/2 a Unit of FSI per day instead of the whole thing, and while I think it is sticking better, it does make for slower going. And I gave up caffeine, so my brain did work at all for about three days, lol. It also seems like El Principito is way too short for L-R, so I'm waiting for my HP books to arrive from Amazon to really get into that. I feel like I should be so much further along by now. I realize it has only been three weeks but I'm impatient!


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kraemder
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 Message 15 of 36
28 September 2010 at 8:32pm | IP Logged 
Good luck on the languages =).

In terms of studying all those languages I suppose it has a lot do with how advanced/fluent you aim to be in your target languages and your learning ability. You'll have a much better idea in a year or two of how realistic your goal is. I can say that when I came back from my 1st trip abroad to Germany I was terribly excited about language learning and I decided I wanted to learn lots of languages. Since then I've found that living in the States there really isn't the motivation to learn anything so you have to crack the whip yourself and it's not easy. Europeans have it a lot easier I'd say but even so it's hard.

As for studying I find that rereading books in translation that I really like is the best way to get started. I loved reading the German translation of Mark Twain's a Stroll through Europe (umm it might not be exactly that name in the original I only have the German translation at home). In German it's call Bummel durch Europa and it's hilarious and talks about learning (or rather -not- learning) German. Very recommended. And I loved Patrick Süsskind which was recommended by someone else. He's written a few stories. I read Die Geschichte von Herrn Sommer first as it was recommended to me. It was fantastic and is also short. Das Parfum is longer and more difficult obviously but a really really good read. I have never gotten into Goethe personally. I love reading but the really high brow stuff gets to be a bit hard for me. If you like it so much the better - it will probably be easier to find reading material then.

As for Spanish - I would say do not start with 100 Years of Solitude (unless you're already familiar with it) I find a lot of Spanish literature is so surreal that even when you're looking up most of the words it's hard to follow because you doubt your ability to understand - it just doesn't sound right (although it may well be right!). So be careful of that. I had the same problem with La Casa de los Espiritus by isabelle allende. I figured if I just looked up most of the words and was patient then it would be good but everything is just so fantastic and outrageous that I didn't trust my ability to understand it. So it's on the shelf to pickup later when I'm better. I had a Spanish tutor and she recommended Paulo Coelho - El Alquimista. It was much easier to read and is also a great story. I recommend that. I'm partway through one of his other books now.
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 Message 16 of 36
28 September 2010 at 8:35pm | IP Logged 
Monte_Cristo wrote:
I was also very excited to find the audiobooks online for free.


Where? =D

A PM would be fine if you'd prefer not to post it in the thread.


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