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| Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4673 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes  Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin | Message 9 of 115 13 October 2011 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | ||
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I know what you mean, I too have a habit of trying to build my vocabulary and sometimes I feel it may not be worth
all the trouble since you do learn vocabulary as you go. I especially question my wanting to learn words I hardly ever use in french to begin with! I suppose a more intelligent approach would be to select first words that you often use in your first language. Is there anything specific in grammar that you are running away from ;) ? As for mandarin, I don't kid myself that I'll make any real progress, it's just that I wanted to fulfill an interest and maybe I'll just build a little foundation for later when I decide to really pick it up. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 5954 days ago 707 posts - 1219 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 10 of 115 14 October 2011 at 8:09am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm avoiding noun declensions like the plague. I think I'll approach them one case at a time.
Say the dative case, to really get familiar it, when to use, verb governance and lots of practice, tests, sentence composition. The sooner I face it the better! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Vos Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5415 days ago 766 posts - 1020 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Polish | Message 11 of 115 14 October 2011 at 9:20am | IP Logged | ||
Haha I do the same thing. Whilst reading if I come across a word that I don't know I'll write it down and then look it up later to add to anki. However now I'm in the habit of say if it's an adjective, I'll then go and find some synonyms, the related noun, verb, adverb etc, perhaps an interesting looking word nearby catches my eye, and then I'll add them all to anki. Seriously adding words to that program probably takes up atleast a good hour or two of my time a week. But I do use it quite often and I really do like having my own personal, self made and customised dictionary at hand whenever I need it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4673 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin | Message 12 of 115 15 October 2011 at 1:20am | IP Logged | ||
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Mooby : I would recommend starting with the instrumental case as it's not very complicated and lets you use
simple phrases, ones using the verb to be (być) and the reflexive verbs (with się). That's the first I learned. I would keep the dative and vocative for much later as they're not as useful. The locative is quite difficult too so I would learn accusative and genitive before. Do it one step at a time too. And don't worry about mixing them up, I know instrumental, accusative and genitive cases since many months and I still mix them up when I speak, all the time. As for me, I finished my third lesson and went to class which went great. I spoke a lot and felt kind of confident (although my teacher constantly corrects me, which is great because that's how you learn). But it's a very casual class, just talking, sometimes little exercises. She gave me the books she bought for me (of course I paid for them). Two great dictionaries from PWN and two exercise books which look amazing : Przygoda z gramatyką (Józef Pyzik) which covers all the cases and more with tons of drill like exercises, and Iść czy jechać? by the same author which covers all the verbs of motion with many explanations and many drill like exercises (the second book is in polish and English at the same time). I'll add both to my weekly routine. I think I'll start with the first one as it's more general. It will make a good review of my knowledge of cases. Edited by Homogenik on 15 October 2011 at 1:23am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7005 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 13 of 115 15 October 2011 at 1:51am | IP Logged | ||
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Those two books are excellent for extra practice. If nothing else, your ability to choose seemingly subconsciously the "right" inflection or verb of motion in subsequent usage of Polish will improve after working through their drills.
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| Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4673 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin | Message 14 of 115 15 October 2011 at 2:01am | IP Logged | ||
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great! thanks for the advice, I'm really looking forward to working through those books (that was so nerdish...) !
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| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 5954 days ago 707 posts - 1219 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 15 of 115 15 October 2011 at 7:59am | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks for the drill book recommendations.
Drill, drill, drill....and when you've had enough....drill some more! That's the conclusion that's slowly dawning on me. I'll have to take precautions though, to avoid the 'drill overkill' and mix in less intense activities, music, listening etc. I'm actually looking forward to it so once I've got through my current vocabulary list I'll take your advice and start on the instrumental case. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Homogenik Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4673 days ago 314 posts - 407 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Polish, Mandarin | Message 16 of 115 15 October 2011 at 4:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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And absolutely add more mellow stuff like you said : music, movies, casual listening. I recommend finding an
audiobook and listen to that once in a while. I found many here : http://peb.pl/audiobooki/ 1 person has voted this message useful |
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