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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 25 of 646 11 May 2012 at 12:58am | IP Logged | |||||
Excuse me, how exactly can I help you? Don't you understand the word 'log' or my last entry? 'Log' is short for 'logbook'. In my log, I write down my language learning experiences. If you didn't understand my last entry, please indicate the passages which you didn't understand. I'm not going to re-tell my whole post here. In any case, a dictionary would have helped as well. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 26 of 646 11 May 2012 at 1:00am | IP Logged | |||||
Oh yes, those small languages... Small but sexy! ;) I thought Icelandic was a small language with only 300.000 speakers. Now, I'm going for Faroese with 60.000... At least Russian has some more. ;) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| csjc Tetraglot Newbie IcelandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5601 days ago 20 posts - 36 votes Speaks: English*, Icelandic, Modern Hebrew, Dutch Studies: Norwegian, French, Japanese | Message 27 of 646 11 May 2012 at 1:44am | IP Logged | |||||
A few comments on your Icelandic: (really well done overall, though) allir vinirnir mínir > allir vinir mínir ; although possessives generally take the article, it's more usual/natural to say 'vinir mínir' in all contexts. áður enn > en ég mæli með þeirri > með henni ; þessi is a demonstrative pronoun, you could however say 'þeirri bók' and it would be correct við alla nemendurna íslensku > við alla (þá) sem læra íslensku (allar íslenskunemendur) Margt manna > margir talað íslensku svo gott > svo vel að þið líkið > að ykkur líki... að líka takes a dative subject, and since you have vona here a subjunctive is called for Let me know if you have any questions about these corrections. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Loperamida Bilingual Diglot Newbie SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4583 days ago 24 posts - 24 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English, French | Message 28 of 646 11 May 2012 at 7:31am | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks, was only the meaning of the word. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 29 of 646 11 May 2012 at 10:23am | IP Logged | |||||
It was the modern Russian army and other parts of armed forces which were marching, not the Red Army. There is such a thing as locative case. Some masculine nouns (about 150, but there are very frequent among them) have a special form with prepositions в, на if they mean location - stressed у. For example, год (year) - в годУ( but о гОде), пол (floor) - на полУ and so on. There are also a few third declension nouns which have streesed shift to the ending in the locative case - кровь (blood) - в кровИ, although о крОви. One has to remember about the stress and fleeting vowels. So, on the chair - на стУле, on the table - на столЕ, on the floor - на полУ. в means in, на means on, but their usage is idiomatic of course, like in February but on Sunday. Edited by Марк on 11 May 2012 at 10:23am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 30 of 646 11 May 2012 at 10:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
No questions at all! Thank you very much for your corrections. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 31 of 646 11 May 2012 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
I did not want to say the modern Russian army was the same as the Red Army. I just said it was the former Red Army, which of course doesn't exist anymore. Sorry, if that was politically incorrect.
Thank you very much for your explanations. I think my textbook deals with the locative on -у, but only after a few more lessons. Stress in Russian is a real pain in the neck. I don't know how to learn the stress pattern for every word. I guess this can only be learned by experience... Thanks for your information on в and на. I'm still trying to figure out when to use which. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 32 of 646 11 May 2012 at 10:36pm | IP Logged | |||||
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FRIDAY, 11 MAY 2012
Oh, Russian! What did I do to you? I betrayed you again - and this time even worse. Today, I neglected my Russian studies again and dabbled happily in Faroese. I collected Lockwood's Introduction to Modern Faroese from the university library and skimmed it through. The most difficult part about Faroese is obviously the pronunciation. Faroese orthography is absolutely etymological, so there are lots of rules for pronunciation - even worse than in Icelandic, nearly as bad as in Danish or English. The grammar, on the other hand, seems to be a watered-down version of Icelandic grammar. There's almost no difference as far as nouns and adjectives are concerned, only the genitive has gone out of use. Some pronouns are different and the verbal system is simplified, but that's it. So, learning Faroese would only be a matter of memorizing new vocabulary and the pronunciation rules, in exchange I would be able to communicate with 60.000 inhabitants of the "Sheep Islands" and to read the traditional Faroese ballads. Well, I don't think it's worth the trouble, but maybe I'll change my mind some day. Today, I only translated the song Handa Mjørkan ('Beyond the Fog'), which I mentioned yesterday, with the help of an online dictionary. It's really a very poetic and moving song which deals with difficult decisions we have to make and big steps we have to take in life - 'through the fog' and towards our true inner self. As a consequence, I didn't study Russian at all. I think I'm going to repeat yesterday's lesson and then listen to the recordings one more time - and that's it for today. Edited by Josquin on 18 May 2012 at 4:56pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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